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#51
08-02-2007, 02:05 PM
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Re: Dealer Comments On Your Play -- What Do You Do?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I would have said,"Why are you talking to me like you know me?" Then never tip him again. Unless you have a relationship with the guy, a sarcastic comment like that=NO TIPS EVA, and its not even close. No need to tell the floor. [/ QUOTE ] At the Mirage, you will be asked to leave the poker room if you announce to the table that you don't intend to tip. Tipping is a personal decision, once you share your no tipping policy with the table you might be breaking the rules. As I said earlier, go see the floor. [/ QUOTE ] This is ridiculous... I can't believe it... I mean I can... but it's ridiculous. Luckily I've had good luck with dealers at the Mirage. [/ QUOTE ] It isn't ridiculous. If someone doesn't want to tip that is their business; when they tell or encourage others not to tip they need to go. [/ QUOTE ] I don't know that I necessarily agree with this, although I wouldn't risk being kicked out of a room for it. If I get scammed by Sony or something, I'm telling all my friends not to buy from Sony, their product sucks, their service sucks, whatever. If I get poor service from a dealer, why can't I tell people about it? They don't have to listen to me. But I think this is a good example of customer preferences dictating behavior. The difference is Sony doesn't care because my voice is small, and in a cardroom my voice is loud, but if I'm not disrupting or ruining the game I think its a reasonable last-resort to tell people about my experience and encourage them to stiff a terrible dealer. 
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#52
08-02-2007, 02:06 PM
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Re: Dealer Comments On Your Play -- What Do You Do?
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[ QUOTE ] When a player starts complaining about the way I deal, I playfully warn them, "Look, if you want to keep talking about the way I deal, I'll have to start talking about the way you play." [/ QUOTE ] This is fabulous, and I can think of a few people I'd like to use that on, but in my room, it'd likely cause the players in question to flip out, and I'd be the one written up. Tho' I may do it to some particularly annoying mid stakes players anyway. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] I get this from dealers all the time, although its always in jest, because I don't ever berate dealers seriously. I think its hilarious and I usually challenge them to HU4rolls.
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#53
08-02-2007, 02:07 PM
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Re: Dealer Comments On Your Play -- What Do You Do?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] telling the floor will do next to nothing. some matters must be taken into ones own hands. next time they come to deal at your table and you are in the one or ten seat, slide some rusty tacks onto their chair before they sit down. [/ QUOTE ] Now I realize your just trolling. Hi there, I'm a moderator. Continue trolling, and I'll be forced to do the only thing I can to get you to stop trolling. [/ QUOTE ] TT, I think you are confusing "trolling" with "joking". [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] I'm in favor of the telling the dealer he was out of line, and then not tipping him ever again move.
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#55
08-02-2007, 02:11 PM
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The difference is Sony doesn't care because my voice is small, and in a cardroom my voice is loud, but if I'm not disrupting or ruining the game I think its a reasonable last-resort to tell people about my experience and encourage them to stiff a terrible dealer. [/ QUOTE ] The difference is that your experience with Sony is "in private". Having a problem with Dealer X is "in public". Everybody at the table can see the Jerk in the Box, and make their own decisions as to tipping him or not. Often I will not tip a dealer who has been rude to other players, but not to me. I do not feel the obligation to announce my reason(s) to the table. They are grown ups. Mostly.
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#56
08-02-2007, 02:14 PM
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Re: Dealer Comments On Your Play -- What Do You Do?
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[ QUOTE ] The difference is Sony doesn't care because my voice is small, and in a cardroom my voice is loud, but if I'm not disrupting or ruining the game I think its a reasonable last-resort to tell people about my experience and encourage them to stiff a terrible dealer. [/ QUOTE ] The difference is that your experience with Sony is "in private". Having a problem with Dealer X is "in public". Everybody at the table can see the Jerk in the Box, and make their own decisions as to tipping him or not. Often I will not tip a dealer who has been rude to other players, but not to me. I do not feel the obligation to announce my reason(s) to the table. They are grown ups. Mostly. [/ QUOTE ] So what if I was standing out in front of Sony telling people about it? Wow, I would never do that, it seems douchey, but its not exactly 'wrong.' I'm not sure what you mean by private exactly, or why this is a big distinction. Does it matter that I'm only telling friends and family, and not just strangers in a poker room? Or is it that I'm sitting right in front of the person I'm complaining about? I guess the only reason I can see the public/private thing mattering is that the cardroom can throw me out, but I never argued that. I think they can and I wouldn't complain if they did. But I still don't think its wrong of me to give my 'consumer report.' It might be douchey, though. IOW, "No, vhawk, you're not wrong. You're just an [censored]."
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#57
08-02-2007, 02:15 PM
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Re: Dealer Comments On Your Play -- What Do You Do?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] At the Mirage, you will be asked to leave the poker room if you announce to the table that you don't intend to tip. [/ QUOTE ] What genius came up with that rule? I'd like to see it in print. Jimbo [/ QUOTE ] "The casino reserves the right to deny service to any customer at any time for any reason." That work? [/ QUOTE ] They can throw you out for being handicapped in a wheelchair? That rule carries about as much weight as the "(insert action here) at your own risk " statement does. b
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#58
08-02-2007, 02:17 PM
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Re: Dealer Comments On Your Play -- What Do You Do?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] At the Mirage, you will be asked to leave the poker room if you announce to the table that you don't intend to tip. [/ QUOTE ] What genius came up with that rule? I'd like to see it in print. Jimbo [/ QUOTE ] "The casino reserves the right to deny service to any customer at any time for any reason." That work? [/ QUOTE ] They can throw you out for being handicapped in a wheelchair? That rule carries about as much weight as the "(insert action here) at your own risk " statement does. b [/ QUOTE ] I'm not sure, they probably could. People with disabilities get extra protection (which they probably shouldn't, but its an acceptable concession I suppose) but I would bet they could still throw you out for that. They don't need to state a reason, and its private property.
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#59
08-02-2007, 02:17 PM
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I'm in favor of the telling the dealer he was out of line, and then not tipping him ever again move. [/ QUOTE ] this is fine because your not sharing your tipping decision with the table. Unfortunatly you often wont teach the dealer that he made a mistake so he doesnt do it again in the future, he will often (not always) only hold a grudge. Remember dealers take pride in their work, they aren't mindless - nobody likes to be told they are wrong, its a natural psychological defense to fight this feeling through denial, thats why its best to let the floor handle the situation.
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#60
08-02-2007, 02:20 PM
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Please don't take this as an insult, but your viewing this from the perspective of a dealer who doesn't want the floor to be notified. Management is hired to manage the staff, its best to let them do their job. [/ QUOTE ] Uh, hardly. First, I don't do this sort of thing until it's well established that the players are fine with it, and even then I don't do it. So you won't be calling the floor on me for this anyway. But even if you did, I wouldn't care. The floor would say, "hey, don't do that," I'd say, "hey, sorry, okay," and that would be the end of it. To be clear, if this was a table not at all open to such things and a delaer that was inappropriate overall, then yeah, talk to the floor. But if this is just one little thing on a table of fun rowdy joking people... hardly something floor-worthy. And it's not so much the calling the floor that's an over-reaction, it's all the "OMGWTFBBQ THIS IS SO AWFUL CALL THE FLOOR OVER IMMEDIATELY!" type of thinking in general that's an over-reaction.
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