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Old 07-24-2007, 04:55 PM
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Everything you say leads me to believe you are v confused by what you've actually read and have added a bunch of assumptions/guesses in order to make sense of it.


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Give me an example. I'm not saying you're wrong but, well, I'll probably say you're wrong later [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 07-29-2007, 04:25 PM
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I've actually met Mystery and I don't particularly endorse him, and I'm not quite sure about the whole pickup thing. But what I can say is that Mystery is probably the opposite of the "player" image, degrading women, the whole nine yards. He really, truely, just appreciates and loves women. It is all he cares about. To an unhealthy level I'd say. And the ridiculous clothing is to prove to the hundreds and thousands of his students that consistantly give him reasons of looks for why they can't meet women. I'm too fat, I'm too skinny, I dont have cool clothes etc. He dresses ridiculous and still gets the girl. I hope the show is good for him, because despite what he has started hes actually a good person.
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Old 07-29-2007, 04:39 PM
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I've actually met Mystery and I don't particularly endorse him, and I'm not quite sure about the whole pickup thing. But what I can say is that Mystery is probably the opposite of the "player" image, degrading women, the whole nine yards. He really, truely, just appreciates and loves women. It is all he cares about. To an unhealthy level I'd say. And the ridiculous clothing is to prove to the hundreds and thousands of his students that consistantly give him reasons of looks for why they can't meet women. I'm too fat, I'm too skinny, I dont have cool clothes etc. He dresses ridiculous and still gets the girl. I hope the show is good for him, because despite what he has started hes actually a good person.

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that is not teh reason he wears those types of clothes
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Old 07-29-2007, 07:10 PM
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For those of you who have not yet read "The Game" by Neil Strauss, I suggest you do so. It's highly entertaining and it covers a lot of ground on how pick up artists work to meet women, or to be more accurate beautiful women.

Secondly, Mystery's dress approach works. He is not dressing up to attract men. He's dressing up to attract women. The key word is attract here. Women are attracted to mysterious and illogical things. They are illogical creatures (well at least to the men anyways.) I didn't quite believe this myself, but about a year ago when I went to a local high end bar with a friend of mine. He wore two different colored shoes. They were very nice dress shoes except one was white and the other one was red. The women at the lounge couldn't stop noticing it. They were "attracted" to it which is the first thing that a man needs a woman to do in order to engage in the pick up process.

Mystery also has a book out called "The Mystery Method - The Venusian Arts Handbook."

Here is the opening quote, "If you can't attract a woman, you are, by dictionary definition, sterile."

The opening forward, "Nature will unapologetically weed your genes out of existence if you don't take action and learn how to attract women now."

Here's another quote on the dressing part, or more so commonly known from his book as peacocking.

"Peacocking is the use of attention-getting clothes to amplify your response in the field. If you are peacocked, girls will look at you more often and guys will make sniggering comments. This means that there will be more social pressure on you that you would normally experience.

It is a demonstration of higher value when people perceive that you are accustomed to this social pressure and otherwise unaffected by it.... "

His seminars and field work, along with those of his devotees from past and present, range anywhere from $500-$2000 US. They have been proven to be highly successful.

Lawrence
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Old 07-29-2007, 08:42 PM
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For those of you who have not yet read "The Game" by Neil Strauss, I suggest you do so. It's highly entertaining and it covers a lot of ground on how pick up artists work to meet women, or to be more accurate beautiful women.

Secondly, Mystery's dress approach works. He is not dressing up to attract men. He's dressing up to attract women. The key word is attract here. Women are attracted to mysterious and illogical things. They are illogical creatures (well at least to the men anyways.) I didn't quite believe this myself, but about a year ago when I went to a local high end bar with a friend of mine. He wore two different colored shoes. They were very nice dress shoes except one was white and the other one was red. The women at the lounge couldn't stop noticing it. They were "attracted" to it which is the first thing that a man needs a woman to do in order to engage in the pick up process.

Mystery also has a book out called "The Mystery Method - The Venusian Arts Handbook."

Here is the opening quote, "If you can't attract a woman, you are, by dictionary definition, sterile."

The opening forward, "Nature will unapologetically weed your genes out of existence if you don't take action and learn how to attract women now."

Here's another quote on the dressing part, or more so commonly known from his book as peacocking.

"Peacocking is the use of attention-getting clothes to amplify your response in the field. If you are peacocked, girls will look at you more often and guys will make sniggering comments. This means that there will be more social pressure on you that you would normally experience.

It is a demonstration of higher value when people perceive that you are accustomed to this social pressure and otherwise unaffected by it.... "

His seminars and field work, along with those of his devotees from past and present, range anywhere from $500-$2000 US. They have been proven to be highly successful.

Lawrence

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From beginning to end, this is so unbelievably pathetic.
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Old 07-30-2007, 02:20 AM
Lawrence Ng Lawrence Ng is offline
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For those of you who have not yet read "The Game" by Neil Strauss, I suggest you do so. It's highly entertaining and it covers a lot of ground on how pick up artists work to meet women, or to be more accurate beautiful women.

Secondly, Mystery's dress approach works. He is not dressing up to attract men. He's dressing up to attract women. The key word is attract here. Women are attracted to mysterious and illogical things. They are illogical creatures (well at least to the men anyways.) I didn't quite believe this myself, but about a year ago when I went to a local high end bar with a friend of mine. He wore two different colored shoes. They were very nice dress shoes except one was white and the other one was red. The women at the lounge couldn't stop noticing it. They were "attracted" to it which is the first thing that a man needs a woman to do in order to engage in the pick up process.

Mystery also has a book out called "The Mystery Method - The Venusian Arts Handbook."

Here is the opening quote, "If you can't attract a woman, you are, by dictionary definition, sterile."

The opening forward, "Nature will unapologetically weed your genes out of existence if you don't take action and learn how to attract women now."

Here's another quote on the dressing part, or more so commonly known from his book as peacocking.

"Peacocking is the use of attention-getting clothes to amplify your response in the field. If you are peacocked, girls will look at you more often and guys will make sniggering comments. This means that there will be more social pressure on you that you would normally experience.

It is a demonstration of higher value when people perceive that you are accustomed to this social pressure and otherwise unaffected by it.... "

His seminars and field work, along with those of his devotees from past and present, range anywhere from $500-$2000 US. They have been proven to be highly successful.

Lawrence

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From beginning to end, this is so unbelievably pathetic.

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So you are telling me that if you could attend a weekly seminar for $1k and then use the methods learned to get yourself laid by gorgeous women that it's unbelievably pathetic?

Are you a eunuch or something?
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Old 07-30-2007, 02:27 AM
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btw I think mystery is kinda douchey but I've read the VA handbook more than once and its terrific, some v v smart, well thought out, and tested infos in it.
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Old 07-30-2007, 03:11 AM
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I dont get all the hate for these PUA types. If it's helping nerds pull roots, then whats the problem?
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Old 07-30-2007, 06:31 AM
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For those of you who have not yet read "The Game" by Neil Strauss, I suggest you do so. It's highly entertaining and it covers a lot of ground on how pick up artists work to meet women, or to be more accurate beautiful women.

Secondly, Mystery's dress approach works. He is not dressing up to attract men. He's dressing up to attract women. The key word is attract here. Women are attracted to mysterious and illogical things. They are illogical creatures (well at least to the men anyways.) I didn't quite believe this myself, but about a year ago when I went to a local high end bar with a friend of mine. He wore two different colored shoes. They were very nice dress shoes except one was white and the other one was red. The women at the lounge couldn't stop noticing it. They were "attracted" to it which is the first thing that a man needs a woman to do in order to engage in the pick up process.

Mystery also has a book out called "The Mystery Method - The Venusian Arts Handbook."

Here is the opening quote, "If you can't attract a woman, you are, by dictionary definition, sterile."

The opening forward, "Nature will unapologetically weed your genes out of existence if you don't take action and learn how to attract women now."

Here's another quote on the dressing part, or more so commonly known from his book as peacocking.

"Peacocking is the use of attention-getting clothes to amplify your response in the field. If you are peacocked, girls will look at you more often and guys will make sniggering comments. This means that there will be more social pressure on you that you would normally experience.

It is a demonstration of higher value when people perceive that you are accustomed to this social pressure and otherwise unaffected by it.... "

His seminars and field work, along with those of his devotees from past and present, range anywhere from $500-$2000 US. They have been proven to be highly successful.

Lawrence

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From beginning to end, this is so unbelievably pathetic.

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So you are telling me that if you could attend a weekly seminar for $1k and then use the methods learned to get yourself laid by gorgeous women that it's unbelievably pathetic?

Are you a eunuch or something?

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So people who don't feel like they need to pay some douche to teach them how to meet women are eunuchs? My first inclination would have been, "Are you able to meet women without dressing like a backup dancer for Jamiroquai or something?"

EDIT: And my "pathetic" statement was meant more to address Mystery's theories on manhood and sterility than the people who actually pay to swallow this [censored]. It's like a 70/30 split of patheticness.
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Old 08-06-2007, 06:45 PM
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I've actually met Mystery and I don't particularly endorse him, and I'm not quite sure about the whole pickup thing. But what I can say is that Mystery is probably the opposite of the "player" image, degrading women, the whole nine yards. He really, truely, just appreciates and loves women. It is all he cares about. To an unhealthy level I'd say. And the ridiculous clothing is to prove to the hundreds and thousands of his students that consistantly give him reasons of looks for why they can't meet women. I'm too fat, I'm too skinny, I dont have cool clothes etc. He dresses ridiculous and still gets the girl. I hope the show is good for him, because despite what he has started hes actually a good person.

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He's like 6'6" and is a magician so his 'ridiculous' appearance is not incongruent with who he is at all. Put all that crap on a shy introverted fat kid in a bar...and he either runs with it and gets into conversations with people (funny, silly, whatever)..or looks like John Wayne Gacy or a seriously mentally ill person.

Mystery is extroverted as his job is talking to crowds of people from on a stange. His dress goes with his image and if he claims otherwise it is marketing.
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