Was I justified or out of line

[KampfHase]

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"Was I (OP) justified...?"

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So, technically OP was indeed justified. However, socially he did no good in angelshooting at the pot.
So, it depends on whether the situation is ruled on social or technical basis. Since it's a game (that means, a social event), it would be best to rule on a social base, even though OP did have the right to claim the pot (which was technically, but not socially justified).

Put that way, can we agree? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[pfapfap]

I think something that should be considered is that the guy with the ace probably didn't understand that he was asked to show his entire hand. For someone who doesn't know that he needs to show a hand to claim a pot, the phrase "table it" makes little sense. All this "I asked him to show" stuff is a little suspect because of that. I'm fairly sure the winner of the hand didn't understand what was asked of him.

[Willy]

Sir, if the game was in my home you would never play again.

[RarocASP]

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Sir, if the game was in my home you would never play again.

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[Benedict]

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I think something that should be considered is that the guy with the ace probably didn't understand that he was asked to show his entire hand. For someone who doesn't know that he needs to show a hand to claim a pot, the phrase "table it" makes little sense. All this "I asked him to show" stuff is a little suspect because of that. I'm fairly sure the winner of the hand didn't understand what was asked of him.

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I think OP was being a total jerk, and should have been kicked out of the game on the spot.

But at the same time people are giving too much benefit of the doubt on the side of ignorance to the button: he is playing in a $300 game of poker... how clueless can he be to stake that much on his skillz?

[ericmalone]

Apparently the consensus is that you were out of line by acting like a fool, however, you did get the rules right.

Have you apologized to the player you called a f'in idiot? I would suggest it. I would also suggest that you show some humility and apologize to everyone else that was present at the time. The issue becomes bigger than a simple hand-gone-awry when friends/acquaintances are hurt by words. We all mess up from time to time, try to right the wrongs when you have the opportunity and move on. Treating people right always trumps a rule book.

Have a nice day.

[Manomanman]

You're trying to enforce the rules yourself rather than with an outside party.

That's why people got pissed at you.

Use a 3rd party who knows the rules, and then the blame gets deflected to them rather than you.

[DavidNB]

You were right by the rules and at a casino would of been awarded the pot. At a home game things are different. You should of waited to see both his cards before showing your hand. THis idiot proofs the showdown and prevents trouble like what happened to you. The other player could of shown one card and if you held your cards back, he would of been forced to show the other card in order to win the pot.

[GeraldGiraffe]

We've had Players do this sort of thing at our home game and it [censored] ruins the atmosphere and is a really dickish thing to do. So don't do it.

[Baby Mantis]

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As long as your game uses Robert's rules as the official rules you're right and should have been awarded the pot. That being said, I would have let it go, he showed the A, gave him the pot but explained for anyone who didn't know you need to show both cards at the showdown.

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I agree but I had a friend that used to do the show one card routine and it royally pissed me off! It was like he was being a smarty pants by saying he only needed one card to beat me. Which I think in itself takes away from the friendly atmosphere. If you call the bet you should see both cards to get an idea how he is willing to play, which is pretty crappy btw.