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Old 06-13-2007, 08:22 PM
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Default Re: A Female President: Is America ready?

Yeah I agree.
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Old 06-13-2007, 11:23 PM
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Katy, don't underestimate the effect of religious issues on voting. It's a gigantic trend in the past few decades.

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Rudy's pro-choice stance is what hurts him with the religious right.

Other than that, I have no idea why CDS gives him no chance. He will play the 9/11 card all the way, it is a good card.

Obama has no chance, no chance, to be elected President. But, I understand folks in Hollywood aren't in touch with the political mainstream; my wife has family there [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 06-13-2007, 11:31 PM
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It's hard for me to picture a democrat with more appeal for the religious republican crowd than an actual republican. Not being anti-choice hurts Rudy, but not enough to matter against a Democrat, I'd guess.
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Old 06-13-2007, 11:35 PM
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Not these Democrats, anyway.

Also, many Repubs, as do I (Libertarian, maybe a hair to the left of Borodog), have positive memories of Rudy standing tall in NYC while Dubya was still flying around in his plane.
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Old 06-14-2007, 06:04 AM
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I'm not sure if the country is ready for a woman president, but I do think that a Clinton/Obama ticket would bring people out to vote and would make for an interesting gambit.
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Old 06-14-2007, 10:20 AM
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Rudy is socially liberal.


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Rudy is socially liberal? God I thought he was ultra conservative. What's the matter with me? [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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LOL, he's way, way, way left.
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Old 06-14-2007, 10:25 AM
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Because given it is a "change" election it is likely that the winner will be a Democrat.


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I don't buy this. The two main blocks that reliably vote: old people and people who are highly religious/one-issue voters. The Republicans have both of those locked up pretty tight regardless of whether anyone likes Bush or not.

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Old people? Really? I don't think so at all. Old people have already earned their money and don't care about raising income taxes. And healthcare costs are also their biggest concern. The Dems just have to tell them the govt will pay for all their healthcare.
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Old 06-14-2007, 10:35 AM
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Katy, don't underestimate the effect of religious issues on voting. It's a gigantic trend in the past few decades.

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Has it been trending up that long? I saw it as a more cyclical thing that has recently trended upward again. Gotta love politics.

What I'm absolutely amazed by is the fact that neither party is showing any real inclination toward fiscal responsibility at this point. Dubya and Congress have dug the government into a deeep financial hole and both parties seem to have gone big government.

What does anyone think about immigration issues? I find that topic very interesting because both parties seem kind of split on it.
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Old 06-14-2007, 06:36 PM
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I don't think Hillary has a shot at all. I don't even think that women would vote for her. In fact, I think that Baraka has a better chance of becoming president.

And I do mean:

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Old 06-14-2007, 06:45 PM
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Because given it is a "change" election it is likely that the winner will be a Democrat.


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I don't buy this. The two main blocks that reliably vote: old people and people who are highly religious/one-issue voters. The Republicans have both of those locked up pretty tight regardless of whether anyone likes Bush or not.

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Old people? Really? I don't think so at all. Old people have already earned their money and don't care about raising income taxes. And healthcare costs are also their biggest concern. The Dems just have to tell them the govt will pay for all their healthcare.

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I don't think past elections bear this out and I don't think this one will either.

Old people care a lot about inheritance and capital gains taxes too. And a very large portion of the ones who worry about medical costs are single-issue voters who agree with the Republic credo that: Morals Matter Most.
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