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Old 05-09-2007, 11:40 PM
Lottery Larry Lottery Larry is offline
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Default Re: WSJ: Harvard Ponders Just What It Takes to Excel at Poker

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Blackjack is a game of chance that allows for the exercise of some skill, but skill alone can never win the game - the cards determine every outcome.

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The cards do NOT determine the important outcome, which is money won/lost. Same as poker (but much, much simpler for BJ, of course).

But we've hit on this before, so I won't rehash.
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Old 05-09-2007, 11:45 PM
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Our goal isn't to prove to a judge that skilled poker players win long-term. Rather, we have to satisfy some legal definition of skill, which varies from state to state.

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Interesting- I would have thought that the goal you said we don't want WAS the best way to prove that poker takes more skill than "luck"
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Old 05-10-2007, 10:16 AM
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Arggghh, NO! Players collect MONEY by getting others to fold or by having the best hand.

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??? Collecting money = winning, right?

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No, not really.

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So you can have -BB/100 stats and still be winning? What are you talking about?

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Of course not- you answered your question for me.

Think about what that -BB rate means, as far as the type of player and the number of hands involved in vs. won...

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OK, so the problem is he missed the "long term" aspect.
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