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03-22-2007, 01:58 AM
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Re: Spew or Sexy: You decide!
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When I say "complete spew" I don't necessarily mean that it is 100% a horrible play [/ QUOTE ] lol? [ QUOTE ] I think this is a poor spot to bluff because it's basically a dark-tunnel bluff. Like you really have no idea what your opponent has and you're just praying he doesn't have something. [/ QUOTE ] I cant explain it any better, but you calling it a "dark tunnel bluff" shows a complete lack of understanding. [ QUOTE ] FWIW, not all 2p2ers are good. You could get looked up here by 77+. Unless you already know Villain is a "good/thinking" 2p2er. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, point taken there are some horrible 2p2ers these days. I was pretty confident opponent was folding 77-99. [ QUOTE ] James I'm curious. Do you ever 3bet anything here other than a bluff? [/ QUOTE ] Yes. I'd occasionally value shove JJ+ and occasionally just call with JJ+ (with goal of being well balanced). My line is pretty strong and if I have not been out of line then this is HOT. 
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#52
03-22-2007, 02:07 AM
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[ QUOTE ] When I say "complete spew" I don't necessarily mean that it is 100% a horrible play [/ QUOTE ] lol? [/ QUOTE ] ugh you're such a troll. People said this is "complete spew" and your response was "well poker is situational so sometimes it's good right?!?!" great, it can be good, that's a semantics issue.
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#55
03-22-2007, 02:54 AM
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I think I fair well against his range, since hes folding a lot of bluffs/fd's/most pps/etc. when I come over the top. [/ QUOTE ] James, your just about completely right in this whole thread except for the part about the villain folding flush draws. He's getting the right price to call with them (even if he assumes you have AA). Which is why your line would be MUCH BETTER if you were slightly deeper! What do you make of his 2.5x the size flop raise? It makes me want to even reraise him more. I think he's dumping this all day.
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#56
03-22-2007, 02:56 AM
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Re: Spew or Sexy: You decide!
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] When I say "complete spew" I don't necessarily mean that it is 100% a horrible play [/ QUOTE ] lol? [/ QUOTE ] ugh you're such a troll. People said this is "complete spew" and your response was "well poker is situational so sometimes it's good right?!?!" great, it can be good, that's a semantics issue. [/ QUOTE ] wow, this doesn't make any sense.
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#57
03-22-2007, 05:03 AM
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Which is why your line would be MUCH BETTER if you were slightly deeper! [/ QUOTE ] I agree. Results- Interesting enough, I found this post ;D. Link I may not have approached this thread with the right attitude. Its not like I wanted to dismiss anyone who disagreed but everyone who said they hated it couldnt provide a valid explanation to why it was such "spew". Anyway hopefully you guys thought it was sort of interesting.
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#58
03-22-2007, 05:46 AM
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Re: Spew or Sexy: You decide!
IMO it just comes down to how often he folds mid pocket pairs here.
im not putting him on trips/boat hardly ever. he could have total air here every once in awhile. it could be a midish pocket pair or lastly a semi-bluff FD (lets not result-orient). as someone else stated, another thing to consider is how often youll come over the top with anything thats not a bluff. this is neither always spew nor always sexy...the play can be used occassionally as part of a balanced strategy. now if you wanna talk sexy....if stacks were a lil deeper what do you think about just calling flop then CRAI on blank turns? i think this is much more representative of AA-KK. it will allow him to bet his FD again or his total air w/e and if the bet sizing gives us enough FE we could get some extra value out of it. Of course if hes smart and has a mid pp he'll check behind on turn usually and he might pick off a big bet if you fire on the river...or he might lay it down. FPS FTW!
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#59
03-22-2007, 05:51 AM
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Re: Spew or Sexy: You decide!
i also think that his raise of your flop cbet was pretty terrible here....with almost all hands in his range, i think floating is the better play. then if you check he can take the pot away from you usually. Him floating would also increase the possibility that he actually did hit that flop in a big way.
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#60
03-22-2007, 05:52 AM
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Re: Spew or Sexy: You decide!
wrschultz your logic seems faulty
if villain is the type that will raise the flop and then call with 88-TT, then hero needs to shove AJo here once in a while, even if 88-TT calls. otherwise, your QQ+ never gets paid. DUHHHH.
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