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orange · #1 10-12-2006, 08:51 PM

Villan is fairly loose PF but no other reads than that. We have no history together, and this is probably the 2nd time I've raised his BB in a blind battle. Whats your typical turn play here, a c/r or a double barrel?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $193.80
CO: $212.90
Button: $197
orange: $214.55
BB: $933.25

Pre-flop: (5 players) orange is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">orange raises to $7</font>, BB calls.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($14, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">orange bets $13</font>, BB calls.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($40, 2 players)
orange ?

Robert A. · #2 10-12-2006, 08:54 PM

check/call?

cbloom · #3 10-12-2006, 08:54 PM

Bet again. He often has some junk draw and will call. If he was a manic aggro-tard I'd CRAI.

Fly · #4 10-12-2006, 09:01 PM

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Bet again. He often has some junk hand and will fold.

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check

neverforgetlol · #5 10-12-2006, 09:04 PM

i like a second barrel. he may put you on a draw but that's ok because you hit a nice turn.

2Paul2 · #6 10-12-2006, 09:05 PM

I like a c/c w/ plans of another c/c on non [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] rivers and c/r on [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] rivers.

Paul

neverforgetlol · #7 10-12-2006, 09:06 PM

why aren't you betting the turn for value? is c/c getting more value? i think c/c looks like exactly what he has, a heart draw.

Albert Moulton · #8 10-13-2006, 12:32 AM

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why aren't you betting the turn for value? is c/c getting more value? i think c/c looks like exactly what he has, a heart draw.

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Assuming villain has a pair lower than T, then c/c wins the amount you call (or 0 if he checks) + the amount of your bet on the river that he will likely call with his 1-pair hand.

Assuming villain has a flush draw and takes a free card, you make more on flush over flush if you let him get there.

I really think c/c might make more when you are ahead, and lose less when you're behind than betting the turn. The only disaster from checking would be that the free card gives villain an unlikely non-heart 2-pair or hits a J/K/Q on you.

bobman0330 · #9 10-13-2006, 12:41 AM

I think check-raising here is perfect. How often are you going to fire at that flop and then give up on that turn? Balance it by blasting him on this occasion. Plus sometimes it'll go check-check and you'll get paid off on the river.

I think betting again is a waste of your hand. Except for maybe a worse T, which is a small part of his range, he's either folding or ahead.

loveminuszero · #10 10-13-2006, 12:53 AM

Bet. If you check and he checks behind and off peels a non-heart face card then you have a difficult decision. Betting will make your life much easier.