Jewish poker professionals

[stinkypete]

jordan berkowitz

[FrankStallone]

Heime Goldsteinmanson, Sam Grizzle, Darden???

[El Ishmael]

6-tabled 5/10 6m for awhile in '75.

[Yuv]

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I just found out that The Grinder is Israeli and it got me to thinking about how many other pros out there are fellow Jews that I wasn't aware of.

Help me complete this list. Forgive any misspellings.

Barry Greenstein
Howard Lederer
David Sklansky
Eli Elezera
Michael Mizrachi
Phil Gordon
Mike Matusow
Gabe Kaplan
Cory Zeidman

By the way, I'm refering to the ethnicity, not the religion, as I understand that a lot of these guys are atheists and such.

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Wow. I'm not offended by your post because I don't think you meant any malice at all, but if you have no idea what you're talking about, you really should just refrain from making posts like this.

Anyway, Jewish people are not a race. If they are, what "race" do you think they belong to? I suppose the "Jewish" race, right?? First cousin's to the "Christian" race, the "Muslim" race, the "Hindu" race, and the other races.....

Judiasm is a religion. I'm not going to try to "prove" this is correct, but let's just say that if anyone cares, 5 minutes of internet research will prove this.

With that being said, I did not know that the Grinder was Israeli. However, even if he is, it doesn't mean he's Jewish. Many Israeli citizens are not Jewish. Many of them are Christians, many of them are Muslims. Most of them are in fact Jewish, but a good percent of them are not. I don't know what the % breakdown is, but my point is that he may very well not be Jewish....I really don't know.

Anyway, ignoring all that, onto what I think was the point of your post, there are many many Jewish people playing poker professionally and I'm always surprised when I watch television how many Jewish people I *suspect* are Jewish (as a Jew, I think I do this naturally [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] )

At any rate, I'm nobody's biographer, so I don't really know, but I think it's safe to say that Stu Unger was (although never practiced). I think it's safe to say that Matusow is by the "Chai" necklace he often wears on television. I *suspect* Jeff Schulman is. I *suspect* 2 of the guys on this past week's final WPT table were Jewish, but I'm not sure, they're just guesses based on last names. I *suspect* David Singer is Jewish. I know there are others, but none that come to mind off-hand.

Are you sure about your list? Howard Lederer?? Eli Elezra?? I know Elezra is from Israel, but again, he may very well not be Jewish.

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Huh? Elezra is jewish, so is Mizrachi. It's not rocket science. Mizrachi isn't Israeli, his father is.

[El Ishmael]

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Anyway, Jewish people are not a race. If they are, what "race" do you think they belong to? I suppose the "Jewish" race, right

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Race, culture, whatever. You can tell you're talking to a Jewish person immediately 90%+ of the time, even if they're not religious. That's a culture thing.

[RJT]

Sorry to OP for this brief hijack.

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…To be a practicing Jew it is not necessary to believe in anything, including the existence of a divine creator(although probably most practicing Jews do so believe). To be an observant Jew it is only necessary to obey the laws of Judaism and to guide one's life by its ethical principles. The various forms of Judaism differ as to how the laws are to be observed, but all adhere to the Jewish system of ethics. Technically Judaism can be described as ethical monotheism.

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LittleOldLady (since you are an English Professor, i.e. good with the written word, I am sure you have already noticed that your initials are LOL. Talk about a misnomer.),

Anyway, I find this (the above quote)very interesting. I am not sure how much of SMP (science, math, philosophy) Forum you read, but this topic should be of interest there. I will post a thread in SMP on this topic. (It won't be until later today.) Please stop by and visit us with some of your thoughts.


RJT

[mmbt0ne]

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Perhaps the most basic stereotype about Jews is the one about how they love money and will backstab anybody for money (this dates back to the Romans and their anti-usury laws where only Jews were allowed to loan money for interest and Jews were tax-collectors).

It is ironic that a Jew, Stuie Ungar, is probably known as the person who most devalued money. Mike Matusow (also a Jew) is a well known money degenerate. Add to this the many Jews who are involved with gambling and you have either a strange coincidence, or a backlash to the stereotype.


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Or maybe the stereotype is just a bunchy of anti-semitic [censored] in the first place.

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I'm guessing we can add colgin to the list of Jewish poker players. <font color="white">please no one get angry over this </font>

[El Ishmael]

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Perhaps the most basic stereotype about Jews is the one about how they love money and will backstab anybody for money (this dates back to the Romans and their anti-usury laws where only Jews were allowed to loan money for interest and Jews were tax-collectors).

It is ironic that a Jew, Stuie Ungar, is probably known as the person who most devalued money. Mike Matusow (also a Jew) is a well known money degenerate. Add to this the many Jews who are involved with gambling and you have either a strange coincidence, or a backlash to the stereotype.


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Or maybe the stereotype is just a bunchy of anti-semitic [censored] in the first place.

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I'm guessing we can add colgin to the list of Jewish poker players. <font color="white">please no one get angry over this </font>

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That or Oskar Schindler.

[LittleOldLady]

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Sorry to OP for this brief hijack.

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…To be a practicing Jew it is not necessary to believe in anything, including the existence of a divine creator(although probably most practicing Jews do so believe). To be an observant Jew it is only necessary to obey the laws of Judaism and to guide one's life by its ethical principles. The various forms of Judaism differ as to how the laws are to be observed, but all adhere to the Jewish system of ethics. Technically Judaism can be described as ethical monotheism.

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LittleOldLady (since you are an English Professor, i.e. good with the written word, I am sure you have already noticed that your initials are LOL. Talk about a misnomer.),

RJT

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What? You think I am not funny???? LOL

[GreywolfNYC]

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Perhaps the most basic stereotype about Jews is the one about how they love money and will backstab anybody for money (this dates back to the Romans and their anti-usury laws where only Jews were allowed to loan money for interest and Jews were tax-collectors).

It is ironic that a Jew, Stuie Ungar, is probably known as the person who most devalued money. Mike Matusow (also a Jew) is a well known money degenerate. Add to this the many Jews who are involved with gambling and you have either a strange coincidence, or a backlash to the stereotype.


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Or maybe the stereotype is just a bunchy of anti-semitic [censored] in the first place.

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That would be my guess.