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Jennicide 323 11.07%
Jen Harman 100 3.43%
Erin Ness 461 15.80%
Evelyn Ng 225 7.71%
Clonie Gowen 271 9.29%
Isabelle Mercier 221 7.57%
Cecilia Nordenstam (Mortensen?) 179 6.13%
Jennifer Tilly 226 7.75%
Shirley Rosario 33 1.13%
Mimi Rogers 40 1.37%
Liz Lieu 231 7.92%
Karina Jett 45 1.54%
Aidlily Elviro 98 3.36%
Peachy 263 9.01%
Veronica O 202 6.92%
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Old 06-22-2006, 04:52 PM
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Default Re: Who\'s the better NBA player?

Pippen didn't play the 2 at all in his career, so you must mean "best second best player on his own team of all time", which is just a ridiculous standard. And also wrong, because Kobe isn't close to as good as Pippen was or as good as whichever of Kareem or Magic you feel was worse in the 80s
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Old 06-22-2006, 04:56 PM
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Default Re: Who\'s the better NBA player?

From 2000 to 2003, McGrady played in 79, 77, 76, and 75 games.

His back didn't start to seriously hurt him until his last Orlando year.
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Old 06-22-2006, 04:57 PM
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Default Re: Who\'s the better NBA player?

Nash Baby
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Old 06-22-2006, 05:09 PM
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Default Re: Who\'s the better NBA player?

If someone truly thinks McGrady is as good a player as Kobe then you are a total idiot. Not only that, but you must be a blind idiot as well because you obviously have not watched the NBA over the past 6 seasons.
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Old 06-22-2006, 05:19 PM
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Default Re: Who\'s the better NBA player?

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Kobe may be the greatest #2 to ever play. Just like Scottie Pippen (another contender for best #2) Kobe's career will not be defined by his rings, but by the way he gave up on his team in a big spot.

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so are you sympathetic to Scottie and critical of Kobe, even if they are defined by the similar games 7? (edit: this is a question. i would like to find out what standard you are using here.)

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Forget the rape, forget the rings, Kobe's career is currently defined by Game 7 this year. No coach or player will be able to see beyond that.

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i hope you meant "forget the rape" because this is a basketball discussion. unless kobe was raping dwayne wade midcourt, i don't see how it could POSSIBLY be relevant to career. (edit: oh yeah, and the rings, are VERY relevant btw.)

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Kobe's problem is that he thinks he is a #1 and he is just not. Dwayne Wade has a far larger claim to his ring than Kobe has to any of the 3. Kobe was never named Finals MVP.

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wow, just wow.
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Old 06-22-2006, 05:29 PM
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Default Re: Who\'s the better NBA player?

I agree w/ most of what KingNeo said in this thread. I voted LeBron for both. Kobe is a better player than Wade.
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Old 06-22-2006, 05:31 PM
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Kobe's problem is that he thinks he is a #1 and he is just not. Dwayne Wade has a far larger claim to his ring than Kobe has to any of the 3. Kobe was never named Finals MVP.

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This is moronic.
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Old 06-22-2006, 05:31 PM
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Kobe's problem is that he thinks he is a #1 and he is just not. Dwayne Wade has a far larger claim to his ring than Kobe has to any of the 3. Kobe was never named Finals MVP.

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This is moronic.

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LOLOL.

When the Lakers were winning rangs Shaq was averaging like 29 in the postseason. Try being MVP when he's on your team.
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Old 06-22-2006, 06:06 PM
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It also a hell of a lot easier to win titles when he's doing that. As we've found out it's not too hard to do well with Shaq in the house.
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Old 06-22-2006, 09:58 PM
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Default Re: Who\'s the better NBA player?

Kobe and Wade have damn close numbers. I give Kobe the nod because he turns the ball over slightly less, however Wade does get to the line more often.

Bottom line though, all three players are dope, none is the next Jordan, and all need another very good player on their team to win a ring.
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