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Old 10-22-2006, 07:29 PM
StregaChess StregaChess is offline
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Default Re: Curtains vs PoG

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Now is the time to castle.

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It is time to consider being more agressive.
Rc8 should be considered, with something like the following...


16. Qe5+ Qe7
17. Bf4 Qxe5
18. Bxe5 Ke7

Connect our rooks faster in a more meaningful way.

15. Qxc3 0-0
16. Bg5 Ne4

I think you pretty much have to decide between the two endings......


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Old 10-22-2006, 07:35 PM
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doesn't castle suck when he moves Bg5?
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Old 10-22-2006, 07:53 PM
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xorbie:

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doesn't castle suck when he moves Bg5?

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No, we covered this, and see below.

15...Qe7 was suggested by Naj and deleted, but that does suck after Bg5.

Strega:

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It is time to consider being more agressive.
Rc8 should be considered, with something like the following...

16. Qe5+ Qe7
17. Bf4 Qxe5
18. Bxe5 Ke7

Connect our rooks faster in a more meaningful way.

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I considered this briefly. After 15...Rc8 he has 16.Qa3 hitting our a-pawn and cutting off the king from castling. Very risky.

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15. Qxc3 0-0
16. Bg5 Ne4

I think you pretty much have to decide between the two endings......


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16.Bg5 most likely won't be played, he has better moves, like 16.Rd1, not that I think we have anything better than 15...O-O.
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Old 10-22-2006, 09:25 PM
NajdorfDefense NajdorfDefense is offline
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doesn't castle suck when he moves Bg5?

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No.
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Old 10-22-2006, 11:08 PM
StregaChess StregaChess is offline
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I considered this briefly. After 15...Rc8 he has 16.Qa3 hitting our a-pawn and cutting off the king from castling. Very risky.



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I missed Qa3, silly me. However I'm willing to play Qe7 so I don't see it as really stopping castling. We would have could choose between 16... Qe7 (sacking the a-pawn!?), 16... a5, 16.... a6

Yes they are risky.....
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Old 10-23-2006, 10:59 AM
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I considered this briefly. After 15...Rc8 he has 16.Qa3 hitting our a-pawn and cutting off the king from castling. Very risky.



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I missed Qa3, silly me. However I'm willing to play Qe7 so I don't see it as really stopping castling. We would have could choose between 16... Qe7 (sacking the a-pawn!?), 16... a5, 16.... a6

Yes they are risky.....

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I guess we should have a vote soon. 15...O-O and 15...Rc8 at least.

But lets look at 15...Rc8 16.Qa3

After 16...Qe7 17.Qxa7 O-O 18.Bg5 (I think it's very important to get rid of this knight if the light squares around white's king are about to get weakened even more and the queens stay on) Qe4+ 19.f3 (the simple 19.Kg1 looks good too) Qxe2+ 20.Rf2 with Bxf6 next and b7 is hanging while d5 is as weak as ever (Rad1 and Rfd2 coming). White's king is slightly drafty in this line though, so maybe he has even better moves earlier.

But 16...a6 17.Rd1 Qe7 might be playable.
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Old 10-23-2006, 11:48 AM
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Curtains plays 15.Qxc3

1. c4 e5
2. g3 Nf6
3. Bg2 c6
4. d4 exd4
5. Qxd4 d5
6. cxd5 cxd5
7. Nf3 Nc6
8. Qd3 Nb4
9. Qb3 Bf5
10. Nd4 Be4
11. 0-0 Bc5
12. Nc3 Bxg2
13. Kxg2 Bxd4
14. Qxb4 Bxc3
15. Qxc3

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Old 10-23-2006, 04:08 PM
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PoG plays 15...0-0

1. c4 e5
2. g3 Nf6
3. Bg2 c6
4. d4 exd4
5. Qxd4 d5
6. cxd5 cxd5
7. Nf3 Nc6
8. Qd3 Nb4
9. Qb3 Bf5
10. Nd4 Be4
11. 0-0 Bc5
12. Nc3 Bxg2
13. Kxg2 Bxd4
14. Qxb4 Bxc3
15. Qxc3 0-0

Curtains

PoG

It is now Curtains turn
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Old 10-23-2006, 04:47 PM
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16. b3
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Old 10-23-2006, 04:52 PM
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Curtains plays 16.b3

1. c4 e5
2. g3 Nf6
3. Bg2 c6
4. d4 exd4
5. Qxd4 d5
6. cxd5 cxd5
7. Nf3 Nc6
8. Qd3 Nb4
9. Qb3 Bf5
10. Nd4 Be4
11. 0-0 Bc5
12. Nc3 Bxg2
13. Kxg2 Bxd4
14. Qxb4 Bxc3
15. Qxc3 0-0
16. b3

Curtains

PoG

It is now PoGs turn
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