** The OFFICIAL NFL Mock Draft Thread **

[Colt McCoy]

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Davis doesn't draft QBs high.

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Dude, the Raiders almost never have draft picks this low.

The gist is that the Raiders were doing everything in their power to get a QB so they can get Calvin Johnson. They know he's the better pick and they want him. But if they can't get a QB, and they won't, they have to take JaMarcus Russell. There's no other way around it, unless you take Brady Quinn instead.

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Heh, they could always wait and take Stanton, Edwards or Beck in the second round. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Who's even available besides Culpepper? Rattay?

[brettbrettr]

david lewin on footballoutsiders has a qb procpect ranking system( woops, editing, read it worng)

quoting a post from those boards

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Of the QBs drafted in rounds one or two between 1997-2006, the system's five favorites have been:
Philip Rivers
Peyton Manning
Ben Roethlisberger
Chad Pennington
Matt Leinart

In that order.

Its predicted worst passers:
Ryan Leaf
Jim Druckenmiller
Michael Vick
Akili Smith
Kyle Boller

In that order again.

The system should be taken very, very seriously.



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[brettbrettr]

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Who's even available besides Culpepper? Rattay?

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Yeah. And this guy:

link

[capone0]

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Davis doesn't draft QBs high.

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Dude, the Raiders almost never have draft picks this low.

The gist is that the Raiders were doing everything in their power to get a QB so they can get Calvin Johnson. They know he's the better pick and they want him. But if they can't get a QB, and they won't, they have to take JaMarcus Russell. There's no other way around it, unless you take Brady Quinn instead.

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Dude. There is history with the Raiders not drafting QBs in the first round. I didn't mean the #1 pick. Honestly, I think they should but will Davis who makes or heavily influences the draft decisions allow it? It hasn't happened in a long while.

Oakland since 1982 has drafted 4 Quarterbacks in Day 1, 1991 with Todd Marinovich 1993 (24th overall) with Billy Joe Hobert (3rd), 2001 with Marques Tuiasosopop (2nd) and Andrew Walter in 2005 (3rd).

I like how you say there is no other way around it. Let's see what happens. They should draft a QB, will they, I doubt it.

[Kneel B4 Zod]

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david lewin on footballoutsiders has a qb procpect ranking system and says JaMarcus should be a SECOND DAY pick. quoting a post from those boards

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Of the QBs drafted in rounds one or two between 1997-2006, the system's five favorites have been:
Philip Rivers
Peyton Manning
Ben Roethlisberger
Chad Pennington
Matt Leinart

In that order.

Its predicted worst passers:
Ryan Leaf
Jim Druckenmiller
Michael Vick
Akili Smith
Kyle Boller

In that order again.

The system should be taken very, very seriously.



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I believe FO has done research which showed that the best predictor of QB NFL success is # of college starts made. seems really simple, and oddly counter-intuitive at the same time.

[brettbrettr]

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Yeah its a combination of the two. I didn't see if this was mentioned but the system says Quinn is likely to be a "good" NFL QB and Russell is likely to be an average to below average passer at the next level I believe.

[capone0]

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comp % too.

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Yeah its a combination of the two. I didn't see if this was mentioned but the system says Quinn is likely to be a "good" NFL QB and Russell is likely to be an average to below average passer at the next level I believe.

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But he's got a cannon arm. You know, throwing 80 yards for every play is a requirement of all NFL QBs. Honestly, precision is so much more important for most NFL QBs. I love a cannon arm like Vick but b/c he is so inaccurate, it has hurt him throughout his career. Accuracy >>> Arm Strength for almost any NFL QB. I'm also not sure about either of the Top QBs, QB IQ. I wasn't impressed with Russell in most of the big SEC matchups I saw with him over the last 2 years. Yes he blew away ND, but honestly all the QBs including Quinn could have blown away ND's secondary.

[Kneel B4 Zod]

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comp % too.

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Yeah its a combination of the two. I didn't see if this was mentioned but the system says Quinn is likely to be a "good" NFL QB and Russell is likely to be an average to below average passer at the next level I believe.

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But he's got a cannon arm. You know, throwing 80 yards for every play is a requirement of all NFL QBs. Honestly, precision is so much more important for most NFL QBs. I love a cannon arm like Vick but b/c he is so inaccurate, it has hurt him throughout his career. Accuracy >>> Arm Strength for almost any NFL QB. I'm also not sure about either of the Top QBs, QB IQ. I wasn't impressed with Russell in most of the big SEC matchups I saw with him over the last 2 years. Yes he blew away ND, but honestly all the QBs including Quinn could have blown away ND's secondary.

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not only can he throw 80 yards, but he has huge hands.

"Have you seen his gosh darn hands? They're huge. It's like the kid has an extra knuckle."

-- Vikings coach Brad Childress on JaMarcus Russell

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I meant all the QBs in the draft including Quinn. ND secondary was a joke. This was painfully obvious not only in the LSU game, USC game and the Michigan game but also any decent opponent all year long.