11 BB Downswing? Post it in here! (Designated No Content Thread) - Page 52

Buzz-cp · #**511** 11-23-2005, 11:31 PM

I just suck at poker.

Buzz-cp · #**512** 11-24-2005, 01:50 AM

TomBrooks · #**513** 11-24-2005, 03:25 AM

[ QUOTE ]
Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Hero raises, BB calls.
Flop: (4 SB, t120) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, Hero caps, BB calls.
Turn: (6 BB, t360) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB raises, Hero 3-bets, BB caps, Hero calls.
River: (14 BB, t840) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, Hero calls.
Final Pot: 20 BB (t1200)
Jax had 86

[/ QUOTE ]
Hi Guruman,
You could have just called rather than raised Jax's river bet with full confidence you were making the right decision. Do you see why? Anyone not see why?

The Rocket · #**514** 11-24-2005, 11:38 AM

Gotta [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] the king on the river.

PokerStars 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
4 folds, CO calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, 1 fold, CO calls.

Flop: (5 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, CO raises, Hero 3-bets, CO caps, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, CO raises, Hero 3-bets, CO caps, Hero calls.

River: (14.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 16.50 BB

Results in white below: 
CO has Jc Kc (full house, kings full of jacks).
Hero has Qs Ad (straight, ace high).
Outcome: CO wins 16.50 BB. 

PokerStars 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG raises, UTG+1 calls, 6 folds, Hero 3-bets, 1 fold, UTG caps, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (13 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, UTG raises, UTG+1 folds, Hero 3-bets, UTG caps, Hero calls.

Turn: (10.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, UTG raises, Hero calls.

River: (14.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 16.50 BB

Results in white below: 
Hero has Ac Ad (two pair, aces and fives).
UTG has Ks Kh (full house, kings full of fives).
Outcome: UTG wins 16.50 BB. 

PokerStars 0.05/0.10 Hold'em (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. MP1 posts a blind of $0.05.
UTG raises, Hero 3-bets, 1 fold, MP1 (poster) calls, MP2 caps, 5 folds, UTG calls, Hero calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (17.40 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, MP1 calls, MP2 raises, UTG calls, Hero 3-bets, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (14.70 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
UTG bets, Hero raises, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, UTG calls.

River: (22.70 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, MP1 folds, MP2 raises, UTG folds, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 26.70 BB

Results in white below: 
Hero has As Ad (two pair, aces and kings).
MP2 has Jh Kh (three of a kind, kings).
Outcome: MP2 wins 26.70 BB.

Koss · #**515** 11-24-2005, 01:39 PM

A recent example of why 1/2 has been a nightmare for me.

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) CP hand converter

Preflop: Hero is MP with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, Hero raises, 3 folds, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB bets, UTG folds, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.25 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.

River: (8.25 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.25 BB

Results in white below: 
BB has Kd 3s (two pair, kings and sixes).
Hero has 9c 9h (two pair, nines and sixes).
Outcome: BB wins 10.25 BB. 

I'm finally experiencing what you old timers call a "downswing." Atleast all these unpredictable opponents are teaching me to pay more attention and take more notes. For example, after this hand, I was able to calmly sit back, open up the note box for this player, and type in "[censored] YOU YOU LUCK ASS MOTHER [censored]. EAT MY ASS"

hemstock · #**516** 11-24-2005, 02:35 PM

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 1 fold, CO calls, Button calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, UTG calls, CO calls, Button calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls, CO calls, Button folds.

Turn: (5.75 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls, CO calls.

River: (8.75 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls, CO folds.

Final Pot: 10.75 BB

Results in white below: Hero has Jd Ad (two pair, aces and nines).
UTG has 8c 9d (three of a kind, nines).
Outcome: UTG wins 10.75 BB.

2.5% to lose on the flop

V4P · #**517** 11-24-2005, 02:40 PM

I got a good laugh out of that one, nh

celiboy · #**518** 11-24-2005, 03:24 PM

Just cleared the friggin Gaming Club reload bonus.

Backdoor flushed 4 times, set over set on the river 3 times, 2 outted on the river 3 times, Dealt AK 11 times and won twice with it.

Good [censored] times

TomBrooks · #**519** 11-24-2005, 03:40 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Preflop: Hero is MP with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, Hero raises, 3 folds, BB calls, UTG calls.
Flop: (6.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB bets, UTG folds, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, Hero calls.
Turn: (6.25 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.
River: (8.25 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.
Final Pot: 10.25 BB
Results in white below: 
BB has Kd 3s (two pair, kings and sixes).
Hero has 9c 9h (two pair, nines and sixes).
Outcome: BB wins 10.25 BB. 

[/ QUOTE ]
Without some knowledge of how your opponent plays, it's hard to know what they might have, especially when they're coming from the BB. This opponent is obviously not straightforward. On this hand against an unknow, I like either folding to the flop three bet or capping the flop. If you cap the flop, I think only a maniac would call and bet out on the turn without a hand. Maybe an OESD or A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] X[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] would bet out the turn, but it would be an unfortunate coincidence if he had that.

WordWhiz · #**520** 11-24-2005, 07:18 PM

God I love Paradise. Love it, love it, love it. I'm playing O8 there now, but the Hold'em games are great as well. Just played an O8 pot that reached 59 BB. I knew I was getting quartered for the low (and had no high), but I was still pumping the river because there were five people left in there with me. Even if I get sixthed, I'm just breaking even. Sure enough, got quartered, and still came out + 4BB on the hand.

I might have to start playing Paradise even when they don't offer a bonus. It's the most accurately named poker site ever. (Caveat: I have never played at Fish Pond poker, so it's possible that they really deserve this title.)