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Old 04-22-2006, 07:02 PM
aggie aggie is offline
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Default Re: a 200-400 AK hand

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nevermind, must be fake, still in the tourney

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This is quite inconclusive as evidence. The hand was posted on the 19th....
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Old 04-22-2006, 07:15 PM
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Default Re: a 200-400 AK hand

don't you think that an opponent who calls the flop check-raise with A-x suited (perhaps not convinced that you are not playing KK in a tricky fashion) would check back turn and river. Or perhaps a loose player who got that far with AJ. ... Also, some players on a flush draw may call the check-raise but not fire if they missed in light of such strong preflop and postflop play from Kassem.
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Old 04-22-2006, 07:18 PM
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Default Re: a 200-400 AK hand

I don't know
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Old 04-22-2006, 10:57 PM
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Default Re: a 200-400 AK hand

okay, but what about his most recent post that took place during the tournament today?
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Old 04-22-2006, 11:46 PM
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Default Re: a 200-400 AK hand

And what are the odds that Deeb knows what TPTK means?
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Old 04-23-2006, 11:11 PM
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Default Re: a 200-400 AK hand

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No guys, the point is that you are giving up on the hand if he calls your check-raise. If he is a decent opponent, what hand is he calling a preflop reraise and then calling a hefty flop check-raise with? ... If you check-raise big on the flop and he calls you, I think you can comfortably give up on the hand. I still think check-raising the flop is the best line.

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Can someone explain to me how this just doesn't turn your hand into a bluff?
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Old 04-23-2006, 11:37 PM
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Default Re: a 200-400 AK hand

Because if your opponent has AK, AJ, or a disbelieving KK, it will likely go check check on turn and river and you will win or split the pot. Also he may call you with a flush draw and decide not to fire at it if he misses the river.
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Old 04-24-2006, 12:44 AM
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Default Re: a 200-400 AK hand

sam,

you keep advocating a large flop check-raise with the intention of giving up on the hand and not putting in another cent.

are you saying you are folding to a flop 3-bet push of your checkraise?

now any two broadway hearts are either a pair+flushdraw or a gutshot+flush draw, and i do not think it would be uncommon for all of those hands to 3bet all in.
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Old 04-24-2006, 01:54 AM
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Default Re: a 200-400 AK hand

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don't you think that an opponent who calls the flop check-raise with A-x suited (perhaps not convinced that you are not playing KK in a tricky fashion) would check back turn and river. Or perhaps a loose player who got that far with AJ.

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And what if the turn and river blank off and after you've shut down on two straight streets, he does put you on KK, and decides to make a small value bet on the river with AJ or Axs, or bluff with a missed draw? You'll fold AK there?

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... Also, some players on a flush draw may call the check-raise but not fire if they missed in light of such strong preflop and postflop play from Kassem.

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This villain presumably is aggressive. You're relying an awful lot on him never bluffing the river after being checked to twice. I'm with the others who don't like that line at all.
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Old 04-24-2006, 04:10 AM
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So leading flop > everything else.
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