Analysis of a downswing

[Gobgogbog]

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TAG from EP, LAG for LP

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That's my approach too. And I'm quite tight from the blinds. Either completing from the SB or calling a raise from either blind.

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I actually complete quite a bit more from SB than I did when I played limit, I think. My VPIPSB is 34%. If this is a leak, it's a leak that has been good to me.

[MyTurn2Raise]

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This next comment is something I'd really like some discussion on:
The key to solving the problem of being too loose is to emphasize position.

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A few days ago, or maybe longer, you posted something I really didn't understand. Someone asked how much to open with preflop, and you said you sometimes go as high as 5BB when UTG. This is backwards, IMO -- I open raise to 3BB UTG and UTG+1 usually, and do 4BB and sometimes 5BB from the later positions, depending on the table. This keeps the pots smaller when I have to cbet OOP and larger when I get to cbet in position.

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I play the same as you Gobgogbog. I got the idea from Gordon's Little Green Book.

first in
Gordon raises 2.5-3.0XBB from early
3.0-3.5XBB from middle
3.5-4.0XBB from late
3.0XBB from sb

his argument is as follows:
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*I commit gewer chips to the pot when I am out of position

*A smaller raise from early position encourages opponents to play against me when I have a powerhouse hand.

*Bigger raises from late position put real pressure on the remaining players to fold and make it harder for the blinds to re-raise

*When I'm playing in position, there is more money in the pot.

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Now this might seem contradictory at times, but it falls in line with the TAG from UTG and LAG from late idea. We want a caller or two for our big hands, but being out of position sucks. Thus, the smallish raise from early position.

In late position, we'll find ourselves with more precarious holdings and thus fold equity is a big part of the profit. Furthermore, we get the opportunity to manipulate the pot size much more with our late position marginal holdings.

[Tarheel]

Baluga - Curiosity sake, When you took a hit to your roll why didn't you move down to a lower stake? This was a good thread, sure had some ummm...interesting responses.

Good Luck getting back.

[fishfather]

True but raising more utg may discourage a loose call whereas raising less may encourage one. For sure in the sb bb I raise considerably more than I do when I'm utg or button.

[Dan Bitel]

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This next comment is something I'd really like some discussion on:
The key to solving the problem of being too loose is to emphasize position.

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A few days ago, or maybe longer, you posted something I really didn't understand. Someone asked how much to open with preflop, and you said you sometimes go as high as 5BB when UTG. This is backwards, IMO -- I open raise to 3BB UTG and UTG+1 usually, and do 4BB and sometimes 5BB from the later positions, depending on the table. This keeps the pots smaller when I have to cbet OOP and larger when I get to cbet in position.

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I play the same as you Gobgogbog. I got the idea from Gordon's Little Green Book.

first in
Gordon raises 2.5-3.0XBB from early
3.0-3.5XBB from middle
3.5-4.0XBB from late
3.0XBB from sb

his argument is as follows:
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*I commit gewer chips to the pot when I am out of position

*A smaller raise from early position encourages opponents to play against me when I have a powerhouse hand.

*Bigger raises from late position put real pressure on the remaining players to fold and make it harder for the blinds to re-raise

*When I'm playing in position, there is more money in the pot.

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Now this might seem contradictory at times, but it falls in line with the TAG from UTG and LAG from late idea. We want a caller or two for our big hands, but being out of position sucks. Thus, the smallish raise from early position.

In late position, we'll find ourselves with more precarious holdings and thus fold equity is a big part of the profit. Furthermore, we get the opportunity to manipulate the pot size much more with our late position marginal holdings.

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I just want to say again how much I HATE HATE HATE this advice.

Are you saying we get AA UTG and should only raise to 2.5 BB??? WTF? Do you WANT to get outdrawn?

[Tarheel]

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I just want to say again how much I HATE HATE HATE this advice.

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Agreed. I didn't read LGB, so i don't know what context these raises apply. But certainly at SSNL your holding and the types of players at the table should dictate your raise amount over any quantifier like this.

[mudbuddha]

i'm very surpised that you roll so low matrix?

i really suggest you don't really continue ont his way unless your lookin to hike it up alot and then decide to settle down there. Poker is a [censored]ed up game... doesnt matter how good you are sometimes and doesnt matter how terrible you are.

10 buy-ins is reallllllllly short. I've lost 3-4 90%'s in a row before and if i wasnt so deeply rolled i would have lost my mind and my bankroll.

Luck or variance, whatever you choose to call it, will affect your mental state. If you have enough money to back up your play, you will be able to play well and maintain your sense of control at the table. If you were gambling with all your money at the table, you would not be playing an optimal game simply because you will have a factor that the other players will not have. FEAR OF LOSING ALL YOUR MONEY! This is because of “gambler's ruin” where you cannot rebuild from $0. Remember that.

personally, my macro management of poker is very risk adverse i have almost 50 buyins.. but i like to gambool @ the table and push small edges.. when i hit 60 im moving up.. yes some may call me a pussy but this is my only source of income currently.

psychologically, it is easier to brush off bad bad beats and several in a row. I've lost 10 buyins before. It doesnt surprise me. It only affects me when they are due to bad play.

I personally feel. its soooooo important for a deep bank roll. I hope baluga rebuilds [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] your a good poster and i'm sure you will rebuild quick

Your Bank Roll is your WEAPON against BAD LUCK!! TAKE CARE OF IT. Try to have poker fund more poker, as opposed to work funding poker. It's important to enjoy poker but its also important to win. Keep Records, those who don't are often losing players and deny ever losing.

[MyTurn2Raise]

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I just want to say again how much I HATE HATE HATE this advice.

Are you saying we get AA UTG and should only raise to 2.5 BB??? WTF? Do you WANT to get outdrawn?

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yes...I want opponents to try and outdraw me much more than just taking the blinds with my AA

[mudbuddha]

sure.. if you can get away from them post flop when your beat then thats fine....
but most of us.. especially that donkey mudbuddha... have trouble gettin away..

besides.. 2.5bb if ur playing in a 100 bb game your giving HUGEEE implied odds... .. ack

[EMc]

Baluga- dont go busto!

me=pussy. 1800 roll, still at 50nl.