Undying fan loyalty? Why?

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Say you are from pittsburgh, and you don't like the pirates FO and manager. Do you now ditch the pirates and root for some team you think is "well run" (code for actually going to win something this year, as someone said) like boston or st louis or the yankees? no, you dont. that is the analogy he is making, and it does hold. he is right about the community aspect.

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First of all, "well run" has nothing to do with "winning something." It has to do with putting together a good product. That product can be good without being a winner - a team can be fun to watch but not be overwhelmingly successful. There are for more organizations I would classify as "well run" than just st. louis or boston or the yankees.

Second of all, the analogy is suspect because by simply living in a country, you are financially supporting it with taxes. However, aside from a few stadium taxes, in order to financially support a team you have to order merchandise, go to games, etc. Therefore, a better analogy would be like moving to France.

I think the analogy was unnecessarily hostile, implying that a person rooting for another team is somehow a traitor to their community. I guess I miss out on the "community" aspect because the closest sports teams to me are still a ways away (New Orleans), but I can't help but think it misses the point. I watch sports because they're fun; therefore, I want to watch the team that's the most fun to watch. Losing sight of that is fine, and I've certainly done that at times. I don't think there's anyway I'll be able to root for a team other than the ones I currently do, except as secondary teams. Still, for someone to catch slack for it is unfair.

(This is more in line with the moving analogy than the "rooting for France" analogy, in my opinion.

(Actually, one of better anaologies I've heard on the subject was like a woman constantly returning to her abusive boyfriend. In a sense, sports fans exhbit Stockholm Syndrome).

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(Actually, one of better anaologies I've heard on the subject was like a woman constantly returning to her abusive boyfriend. In a sense, sports fans exhbit Stockholm Syndrome).

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I like this analogy, it suits the team/fan relationship very well.

[Boris]

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(Actually, one of better anaologies I've heard on the subject was like a woman constantly returning to her abusive boyfriend. In a sense, sports fans exhbit Stockholm Syndrome).

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I like this analogy, it suits the team/fan relationship very well.

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Yea if you're a Royals fan maybe.

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(Actually, one of better anaologies I've heard on the subject was like a woman constantly returning to her abusive boyfriend. In a sense, sports fans exhbit Stockholm Syndrome).

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I like this analogy, it suits the team/fan relationship very well.

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Yea if you're a Royals fan maybe.

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Vikings...the Red Sox on the NFL.

[KDawg]

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I dunno, I just don't see any point in being, like, a Pirates fan right now.

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That's part of the fun though. It makes the good seasons so much more enjoyable.

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bingo. I've been a white sox fan since I've been old enough to follow sports. The Sox winning the series last year was that extra special due to the fact that I've seen us be fairly under .500(good ole 89) and the fact that I grew up on the north side(which to those that don't live near chicago is cubs territory).

What Jared said about feeling a connection to the team is very true. Do I follow the White Sox, Bulls, and Bears due to geography, yea of course, but I don't know any other way. Of course it does make it weird for me following Manchester United because since I've started following soccer they haven't exactly been in relegation trouble, though I am sure that I would support them if that happened because I believe that when you pick a team you stay with that team

[KDawg]

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it's more logical to root for a team that makes smart decisions

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And this is what pushed you to the Cubs? Musta been the Baker signing [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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sorry if i didn't make it clear that the cubs are the team i grew up on, not the one i'm switching to. although their front office is a lot better now than in the "let's sign sandberg and let maddux walk" days.

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the tribune co still owns them, so no, their front office isn't any better and that won't change until the tribune co decides to sell them to a real owner

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It works the other way too. If you think that being a Yankees fan is always fun since every season they win the division and have a playoff run, you would be wrong.

[KDawg]

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It works the other way too. If you think that being a Yankees fan is always fun since every season they win the division and have a playoff run, you would be wrong.

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I live out in jersey right now and I know a lot of yankees fans, so I know that that isn't the case. I was just saying that being a ManU fan from the states does present its own short comings as far as credibility goes for supporting them(though their winning wasn't why I started supporting them as it was more about their style of play that attracted me to them)

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I live out in jersey right now and I know a lot of yankees fans, so I know that that isn't the case.

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How is what I said untrue? I wasn't disagreeing with anything you said, just adding.

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I live out in jersey right now and I know a lot of yankees fans, so I know that that isn't the case.

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How is what I said untrue? I wasn't disagreeing with anything you said, just adding.

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I think I just midunderstood what you said