6-Max UTG Raising ranges

[Rotterdaum]

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KJo really utg sucks. To me, suited aces are a cash crop [img]/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img]

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Is KQo a better hand than ATo? How about ATs? Alhough I do this too, it seems strnge to raise KQ but not AT UTG.

[soah]

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The only thing I don't understand in most people's raising standards is that everyone seems to raise 22+. I don't really understand the advantage of 22-66 over JTs/QJs. You say it's hard to play OOP, but how would you play 22? A problem I foresee with raising 22 UTG is that most low flops where you're probably good, players would think you have missed, and if they donk or c/r, don't you have to release?

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I'm not playing 22 to flop a pair of twos.

[soah]

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KJo really utg sucks. To me, suited aces are a cash crop [img]/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img]

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Is KQo a better hand than ATo? How about ATs? Alhough I do this too, it seems strnge to raise KQ but not AT UTG.

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KQ plays a lot better than ATo. KQ always makes second pair, second kicker, with only one overcard to worry about. ATo makes top pair with a lousy kicker, or TPTK with tons of overcards to worry about.

[GHAND]

400 NL 6m
UTG
Typically Raise: 77+, AK-A10s, suited boradways, J10.
Dont like playing KQo or KJo OOP so i usually fold them.
And occasionally throw in some SC to mix things up.

My stats are 25/13

[WiltOnTilt]

This thread has been interesting. I've often wondered how some of you guys make it to >11% PFR, when I feel like I'm constantly raising PF and getting played back at and my PFR is only about 10%. In some cases I can see where I'm losing a few % points by not raising some hands UTG (I usually limp 22-77 and generally don't raise QTs, QJs, KJs, KTs) but I think the major thing I'm taking away from this thread is that I really should open up my PF re-raising range (in position).

KoW

[AJFenix]

If some of you guys think hands such as A7s-A8s are clearly profitable to come in raising with UTG, do you really think hands like A4s and A5s aren't? Also, I would venture to guess that KQo and AJo are fairly close to neutral EV, and ATo is right there or just under, on average.

[Parlay Slow]

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Is KQo a better hand than ATo? How about ATs? Alhough I do this too, it seems strnge to raise KQ but not AT UTG.

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I think if you gave this 30 sec of thought you'd figure it out.

[DrGonzo]

Interesting thread. I seem to be way too tight in early position.

I started out by roughly following fimbuls advice in this old thread when I started cash-gaming:
fimbulwinters pre-flop play
It advocates rather tight raising standards UTG and UTG+1 and rather loose raising standards in LP. It has served me well, but maybe I'm loosing value by being too tight in EP. There are too many good players here with much looser raising standards UTG than mine, so I guess so [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] .

[AJFenix]

My 5-10 range:
Raise with:
22+ 100%
All suited broadways ~90%
AJo/KQo ~80%
All suited aces ~80%
Connectors/random hands still very table dependent. I currently fold them wayyy more than I used to, though, and I feel its easily the correct decision to do so.

No limping, only raise/folding. Like I said, I think limping with such a narrow range, even if you are throwing in other hands, is probably going to be giving away too much information. That, and you cost yourself initiative. I am also a big fan of suited broadways, as they can hit some pretty nice action flops. On the other hand, AJo and KQo might go down to like 60-70%.

[DrGonzo]

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{0, 0, 1} for everything

22+
A8s+
ATo+
KQo/KQs

add in a few times i randomly raise stuff like T9s, 75s, 85s, etc.

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This plus all suited Broadways.

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Edge and everyone else, what is your calling range when you get a healthy re-raise from behind?

Do you call with more than say 20% of your initial raising range? You don't have odds to draw to a set if stacks aren't very deep and surely you would not want to call a big re-raise OOP with 22-TT, AJ-ATo, KQo, AJs-A8s, KQs,KJs,QJs, small suited connectors and probably not AQ either?

Doesn't this leave you very vulnerable to a re-raise? It would be +EV for opponents to raise with almost any two. When I'm somewhere behind a good but overly aggressive player that tries to bully the table, I occassionaly throw in a re-raise with a drawing hand or even a crap hand. That move usually works if you have a tight image and don't overdo it.

Please give me your thoughts on this.