Advice f/ a MHNL'er Post #3

[Mercman572]

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re: table selection at party i find the following method works well: click the check box marked 'Hide full tables', double click the first table in the list, buy in, wash, rinse, repeat .

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you sir are quickly becoming the authority of confident, poorly made responses

[george w]

becoming? did you miss my recent speech regarding iran?

data mining and poker tracker stats aren't all they're cracked up to be.

[Fallen Hero]

I'll go even further and say many players lose money by using their pt stats based on the 50hands they datamined before sitting down

[quarkncover]

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I'll go even further and say many players lose money by using their pt stats based on the 50hands they datamined before sitting down

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Fallen,

I think you make a good point here. I recall Isura saying that he filters PAHUD to only display stats on players that he has more than 200+ hands on.

Regards,
Quarkncover

[Isura]

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I'll go even further and say many players lose money by using their pt stats based on the 50hands they datamined before sitting down

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I completely agree.

[Mercman572]

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I'll go even further and say many players lose money by INCORRECTLY using their pt stats based on the 50hands they datamined before sitting down

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FYP. I'll take 50 hands worth of stats over 0 any day. I will take them for what they're worth and 9 times out of 10 I will play better by using them.

Not understanding the variability in a statistic does not mean that the statistic is not useful, just that its use isn't fully understood.

[thedustbustr]

I set my stats to 1 hand, but I can estimate the accuracy of the stats based on the number of hands which I also display. 10 hands is often plenty to spot a maniac - if his vpip is 90 and his PFA is 60 over 10 hands, I'll play him as such.

[Tera_flop]

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Not understanding the variability in a statistic does not mean that the statistic is not useful, just that its use isn't fully understood.

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Well said. Sample size is generally an issue, but throwing away information b/c n<50 is giving up a lot.

[FreakDaddy]

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I'll go even further and say many players lose money by using their pt stats based on the 50hands they datamined before sitting down

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I completely agree.

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This statment is quickly becomming a sick mantra on this forum. If people are losing money because of PT stats, then they're not applying them correctly. Plain and simple.

I'm not saying anyone on this post was saying they don't know how to use PT. But I do hear so much hate for PT/GT+. If you're such PT/GT+ haters, why in the hell do you use it?

[Fallen Hero]

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I'll go even further and say many players lose money by using their pt stats based on the 50hands they datamined before sitting down

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I completely agree.

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This statment is quickly becomming a sick mantra on this forum. If people are losing money because of PT stats, then they're not applying them correctly. Plain and simple.

I'm not saying anyone on this post was saying they don't know how to use PT. But I do hear so much hate for PT/GT+. If you're such PT/GT+ haters, why in the hell do you use it?

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I love pt, I have nothing against pt. But there is no "right" way to use data from 50hands, the only "right" thing to do is to ignore it.