Staking/Make-up question: What to do with lower prize-pools? - Page 5

SofaKing420 · #41 10-20-2007, 02:56 AM

you ask if there is a way to buy back part of yourself. sure their is... go out and borrow the 15 dimes and pay the man back and then start over with the original deal. either that, or work it off by playing and winning to get back to zero. this is business.... you cannot expect to buy back part of yourself with your GOOD LOOKS for collateral.

LOL @ GOOD LOOKS

bobneptune · #42 10-20-2007, 03:49 AM

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And I'm not sure why you guys are giving me a hard-time, it's not like I'm saying I'm running off or trying to erase my make-up to 0, that's not what I'm doing at all. Obviously I'm going to try to play out of make-up and I feel worse about losing someone elses' money than I do about losing my own. Quite frankly Bob, you're being a huge jerk which is completely unwarranted and from someone that I've never even seen post before.

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mr huge jerk here,

you ask why everyone is giving you a hard time.... well, it seems as though you want to have your cake and eat it, too.

you want your backer to stake you in big events where there is a chance to hit the ball out of the park, but you whine like a sissy-boy that playing 12 hours and getting no cash to try to get your man even makes it impossible for you to play your best. jesus, that's pretty much what most are giving you a hard time about. it seems quite infantile.

look, no one here knows what deal you have with your backer.... that's between the 2 of you. if there are some unexplored areas, by all means , square them away. that being said, it's clear what you should do. you should tell your man you intend to play events x,y and z. since you are into him for 15k, how can you not possibly give him the option of backing your under your regular deal ??? if he wants the action, you are obligated to give it to him. should he not be interested.... play for your own account.

but i'm sure you realize that would be the right thing to do. really.... i don't understand what the discussion is about.

and, for the record, i'll feel free to post my thoughts here as long as they are within the rules of this board whether you think if have the requisite standing or not.

mr huge jerk signing off........

WarDekar · #43 10-20-2007, 03:54 AM

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you want your backer to stake you in big events where there is a chance to hit the ball out of the park, but you whine like a sissy-boy that playing 12 hours and getting no cash to try to get your man even makes it impossible for you to play your best. jesus, that's pretty much what most are giving you a hard time about. it seems quite infantile.

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What?
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that being said, it's clear what you should do. you should tell your man you intend to play events x,y and z. since you are into him for 15k, how can you not possibly give him the option of backing your under your regular deal ??? if he wants the action, you are obligated to give it to him

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So because he staked me in large buy-ins live, I should be giving him all my $10-200 action on-line? Sorry, but that makes absolutely no sense.

DLizzle · #44 10-20-2007, 03:59 AM

you're not being a jerk, but OP kinda seems like one

WarDekar · #45 10-20-2007, 04:06 AM

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you're not being a jerk, but OP kinda seems like one

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Sorry but I take it a little personally when I post a question and ppl basically tell me I'm an awful human being when in reality the issue is just we never had clearly set terms so I don't know what's expected, etc. Obviously none of you know the terms of our deal, and I tried as best I could to explain it, that the deal was originally for bigger buy-in, large fields.

Now I would like to play smaller buy-in, smaller fields live and I asked him what we should do since this wasn't outlined originally. I don't want to screw him over of course, and if anything I think I did the right thing by asking what was a fair compromise. He didn't know what was fair, so I thought I would ask 2p2. Apparently this makes me a bad person and a jerk now, too.

Highn · #46 10-20-2007, 06:51 AM

I think people need to chill out, wtf he's just trying to get things clear/asking around. No need to be so harsh and judgemental. If anything he is honoust about how it might negatively affect him, although I don't agree with his thinking, it's way better than just keeping quiet about it imo. But yeah I think the answer was somewhere around "You need to clearly define all the details" as what seems to be the consensus.

21times20 · #47 10-20-2007, 07:07 AM

im pretty sure people with attitudes like the OP's are somewhere close to exactly the kind of people you don't want to end up in a staking arrangement with, almost regardless of skill level

THAY3R · #48 10-20-2007, 08:05 AM

Buy your action from him for the smaller buyins. Something like you'll play them on your own and 25% of it goes into the makeup.

BrandiFan · #49 10-20-2007, 09:38 AM

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Buy your action from him for the smaller buyins. Something like you'll play them on your own and 25% of it goes into the makeup.

[/ QUOTE ]This sounds great. Whatever happens, you really should write something dowm with your backer so that the terms of your agreement are clear and fixed. Even if he's a friend there is great benefit in eliminating ambiguity from your agreement.

jtown1010 · #50 10-20-2007, 12:02 PM

It's really in your best interest to get out of make-up ASAP. I think it's reasonable to assume that your backer would feel a lot more comfortable putting you in 10K events after he's seen some profit from your arrangement. I realise that you think it's unfair or unwise to be playing strictly for make-up, but it's really unfair to the person backing you if you aren't working as hard as possible to pay them back the money they have invested in you.