WCOOP main event sensation - winner under investigation

[forshure]

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whether these allegations come to be truth or not, i think you can see why on-line poker will not be legalized in the usa, anytime soon.

it's interesting how everyone was berating the usa for making on-line poker illegal based upon it being classified as a game of chance, when the real concern is that on-line poker does not have the security in place to prevent cheating.

i will not be surprised if more euro countries start to ban on-line poker for security reasons. the on-line sites have very well demonstrated that they are more interested in raking in the rake today, rather than spending capital to provide the adequate security measures needed in today and tomorrow's on-line world.

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Really just never understood this logic and such at all. Well they have problems so lets just make them illegal and deny people the opportunity to make their own decisions and possibly infringe on their freedom. Instead of we can fix the problems by legalizing it and allow people opportunities they want and make everyone happy.

Also online horse betting will still be legal last I knew, and no one has ever fixed a horser ace.

[wisehandpoker]

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whether these allegations come to be truth or not, i think you can see why on-line poker will not be legalized in the usa, anytime soon.

it's interesting how everyone was berating the usa for making on-line poker illegal based upon it being classified as a game of chance, when the real concern is that on-line poker does not have the security in place to prevent cheating.

i will not be surprised if more euro countries start to ban on-line poker for security reasons. the on-line sites have very well demonstrated that they are more interested in raking in the rake today, rather than spending capital to provide the adequate security measures needed in today and tomorrow's on-line world.

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Really just never understood this logic and such at all.

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That's because his logic was based on skewed and incorrect assumptions on how the world works. Online poker isn't going anywhere.

[antisocialgrace]

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whether these allegations come to be truth or not, i think you can see why on-line poker will not be legalized in the usa, anytime soon.

it's interesting how everyone was berating the usa for making on-line poker illegal based upon it being classified as a game of chance, when the real concern is that on-line poker does not have the security in place to prevent cheating.

i will not be surprised if more euro countries start to ban on-line poker for security reasons. the on-line sites have very well demonstrated that they are more interested in raking in the rake today, rather than spending capital to provide the adequate security measures needed in today and tomorrow's on-line world.

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Exactly.

[fraac]

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whether these allegations come to be truth or not, i think you can see why on-line poker will not be legalized in the usa, anytime soon.

it's interesting how everyone was berating the usa for making on-line poker illegal based upon it being classified as a game of chance, when the real concern is that on-line poker does not have the security in place to prevent cheating.

i will not be surprised if more euro countries start to ban on-line poker for security reasons. the on-line sites have very well demonstrated that they are more interested in raking in the rake today, rather than spending capital to provide the adequate security measures needed in today and tomorrow's on-line world.

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Exactly.

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The lack of regulation is reason to have no regulations?

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If this isn't spam, ban me instead.

@ antisocialgrace, obv.

[Kurn, son of Mogh]

it's interesting how everyone was berating the usa for making on-line poker illegal

Uh, online poker is not illegal in the US.

[DonkStrike]

Kurn, son of Mogh wrote:
"Uh, online poker is not illegal in the US."

While not all 50 states have laws against, eight US states have laws that specifically prohibit Internet gambling: Washington, Nevada, Illinois, Indiana, Louisiana, South Dakota, Michigan and Oregon.

I agree with many of the reply's that it would be much better to have the proper security in place, legalize, and have an oversight board.

I guess my main point was that while those that have an equity piece in pokerstars and full-tilt are collecting huge returns on their initial investment, they appear to have been very ineffective in the area of security and protection of the integrity of their games and tournaments.
If they don't get their act together, the anti "online poker" climate will get worse, not better.

All of the methods that have been stated in this thread regarding cheating have been around for years and as easy as they are to accomplish there has yet been measures installed to thwart them.

When Zee Justin pulled his multi-account cheat, the same comments were heard. That was about 2 years ago and his cheating methodology can still be easily accomplished on pokerstars and ftp.

[thaaj]

i heard it was mike thuritz but wasnt 100 percent sure because when thuritz played on ub back in the day he was a serious LAG, but i guess most ppl were in those days. P2k is like the king of TAGs.

[PStarsStephenW]

PokerStars's standard practice is to conduct a special security review for players in each large tournament, including the Sunday Million and WCOOP events.

At this time the review is completed for all players in the WCOOP Main Event which concluded on October 1, except for the winner, where the investigation is continuing. We hope to conclude it as soon as possible.

The details of all security investigations are confidential.

This player has also requested that their personal information is not disclosed, and therefore PokerStars cannot divulge information about the player's identity.

Stephen W.
Manager, PokerStars Game Security

[STA654]

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PokerStars's standard practice is to conduct a special security review for players in each large tournament, including the Sunday Million and WCOOP events.

At this time the review is completed for all players in the WCOOP Main Event which concluded on October 1, except for the winner, where the investigation is continuing. We hope to conclude it as soon as possible.

The details of all security investigations are confidential.

This player has also requested that their personal information is not disclosed, and therefore PokerStars cannot divulge information about the player's identity.

Stephen W.
Manager, PokerStars Game Security

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OK, so something is going on, but the matter is confidential.

let the speculating continue then.