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#41
09-07-2007, 03:54 PM
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Re: 50NL; AA vs. known 2+2\'er
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CR flop to 12, if he pushes, fold. ffs = for [censored]'s sake. As played, fold river. [/ QUOTE ] do not do this. you're sucking all the value from your own hand. OP, just bet the flop. even 2p2ers will float sometimes or call down w/ middle pair. Also, if he limp/calls small pairs from EP at 6-max he can prob do the same w/ suited connectors (KQs,QJs), which he will def call down with. as played fold the river, people who limp/call utg at 6-max are not typically the same ppl you have to worry about 3-barrel bluffing you. 
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#42
09-07-2007, 03:56 PM
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Re: 50NL; AA vs. known 2+2\'er
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[ QUOTE ] CR flop to 12, if he pushes, fold. ffs = for [censored]'s sake. As played, fold river. [/ QUOTE ] do not do this. you're sucking all the value from your own hand. OP, just bet the flop. even 2p2ers will float sometimes or call down w/ middle pair. Also, if he limp/calls small pairs from EP at 6-max he can prob do the same w/ suited connectors (KQs,QJs), which he will def call down with. as played fold the river, people who limp/call utg at 6-max are not typically the same ppl you have to worry about 3-barrel bluffing you. [/ QUOTE ] He didn't limp/call UTG. He's in the bb.
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#43
09-07-2007, 03:58 PM
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Re: 50NL; AA vs. known 2+2\'er
ahh sorry skimmed over preflop . this makes QX a bit more likely than if he had limp/called, so i still think betting the flop is good. I still think you need to fold the river since he checks a Q behind like always.
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#44
09-07-2007, 03:59 PM
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Re: 50NL; AA vs. known 2+2\'er
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ahh sorry skimmed over preflop . this makes QX a bit more likely than if he had limp/called, so i still think betting the flop is good. I still think you need to fold the river since he checks a Q behind like always. [/ QUOTE ] Ok so I bet the flop and he calls. Turn - I........?
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#45
09-07-2007, 04:03 PM
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Re: 50NL; AA vs. known 2+2\'er
bet/fold
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#46
09-07-2007, 04:05 PM
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Re: 50NL; AA vs. known 2+2\'er
I would pot size bet the turn. If he calls you can put him on KK a bit more accurately and the river won t be such a nightmare.
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#47
09-07-2007, 04:07 PM
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Re: 50NL; AA vs. known 2+2\'er
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I would pot size bet the turn. If he calls you can put him on KK a bit more accurately and the river won t be such a nightmare. [/ QUOTE ] why would he ever have KK here?
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#48
09-07-2007, 04:08 PM
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Re: 50NL; AA vs. known 2+2\'er
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[ QUOTE ] Your suggestion to check raise flop and then fold to a push is a suggestion to make my AA a bluff. You may as well tell me to do this with JTs. [/ QUOTE ] If C/R this flop with AA turns it into a bluff, you need to be C/R this flop more often. Not as the PFR though. [/ QUOTE ] no. what turns it into a bluff is c/r with the intention of folding if raised and/or shutting down when called.
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#50
09-07-2007, 04:21 PM
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Re: 50NL; AA vs. known 2+2\'er
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Your suggestion to check raise flop and then fold to a push is a suggestion to make my AA a bluff. You may as well tell me to do this with JTs. [/ QUOTE ] If C/R this flop with AA turns it into a bluff, you need to be C/R this flop more often. Not as the PFR though. [/ QUOTE ] no. what turns it into a bluff is c/r with the intention of folding if raised and/or shutting down when called. [/ QUOTE ] I don't get why we'd have to shut down after C/R a flop like this with AA. And obviously it's not a bluff if we can get called by worse. But this is all beside the point, since I agree C/R the flop here as PFR is stupid.
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