Top 10 video games (Edge Magazine)

[Soul Daddy]

I've seen all of that stuff before, yes. I had also seen it all before I just replayed OoT and it didn't lessen the enjoyment of it at all. The story was just as gripping as ever and overall the game is more challenging, even though I had previously played it and recalled many of the solutions. I'd say the same, probably even more so, for ALttP. And again, the wolf parts really detract from TP.

I think impact has to be a factor in these sort of lists, for sure. But it's surely far from the only factor. SMB was a revolution, but it's really only slightly fun now. There is a balance that every such list should find between current playability and what it represented at the time of release. The article, while not making exactly clear what its ultimate criteria was, does attempt to make this point.

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But he said the intention behind the poll was not to create a "nostalgia festival".

"These games had to stand up today. People will be surprised by the small amount of very old games that have made it through.

"Often these types of lists are full of games like Space Invaders and Pong - which we recognise as classics, as important games - but they don't necessarily stand up to play today.

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Why is Diablo 2 more revolutionary than Diablo 1?


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It isn't more revolutionary, IMO I think they wanted to make 2 first, fell short, and came up w/ 2 later. 2 is just a more complete game IMO.

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Wow, I liked 1 way more than 2 and didn't feel that either was revolutionary.

[SBR]

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I'm wondering if Half Life 2 included votes for counter strike. On it's own it doesn't really deserve a top 10 mention but if CS is considered part of HL2 then it's a definite top 10.

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But CS isn't even part of Half Life 2. CS source is based on the HL:2 engine but is much less a "part" of Half Life 2 than CS is of Half Life. Putting Half Life 2 on the list instead of the original Half Life make no sense whatsoever. Same with Final Fantasy 12, there are earlier games in the same series that are better in every single way except for graphics. If I was writing for a video game magazine and the readers of the magazine came up with a top 10 list like this I think I would quit.

[Zefa]

That list is such a joke.

The only reasonable ones on there are tetris, mario, and zelda.

[eurythmech]

Nintendo fanboys, what a surprise.

[Insane_Steve]

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Super Mario World should be replaced by Yoshi's Island.

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seriously QFT (I know this is a losing battle but w/e)

Also, Mario 64 as the best Mario game ever? What the hell? It's not even top 3 (YI, SMW, SMB3 > SM64). Ya SM64 is a really really good (and at the time, revolutionary) game, but not the best Mario game ever.

Ocarina of Time is somewhat overrated also. Ya, it's a really good game, but best ever? Seriously?

I'm not even going to comment on FFXII.

Overall, while every list of the BEST XXXXXXX EVER is going to have swarms of people picking apart everything wrong with it, this list just seems really wrong.

Oh, Tetris Attack is my favorite puzzle game also, but I don't see it ever being ahead of the original Tetris. That game was just too revolutionary as puzzle games go.

[evil twin]

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No Doom or Quake? Eh, I guess 3D was just a fad.

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Half Life 2 covers that base rather well I thought.

[Bork]

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Super Mario World should be replaced by Yoshi's Island.



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IIRC Yoshi's Island was incredibly easy and also very short. I remember renting and beating it in an afternoon. It seemed like it was for small children.

Super Mario World I remember struggling to find all the secrets and beat all the stages.

[Number27]

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IIRC Yoshi's Island was incredibly easy and also very short. I remember renting and beating it in an afternoon. It seemed like it was for small children.

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You're thinking of Yoshi's Story for the N64. Yoshi's Island was pretty long.

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No Doom or Quake? Eh, I guess 3D was just a fad.

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Half Life 2 covers that base rather well I thought.

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That tends to wash out the meaning of great game to pretty much nothingness though. Halo 2 was nowhere near as revolutionary and influential as Doom nor as popular as Quake. Those two games were absolute phenomena. Halo was a drop in an already very used bucket by comparison.