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Old 06-14-2007, 06:35 PM
renodoc renodoc is offline
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Default Re: On the final table bubble in a WSOP Event

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huh? Of course I think they are calling 99+, whether it's correct or not against our range, I'm not so sure.

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crap, i had to refresh the stack sizes. you are probably right, but I still hate it.

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You hate calling with 99?

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I hate being called by 99.

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Yeah I hate being called by 88 too. btw I wouldn't be completely shocked if someone folded 88 to a push (and they probably should against what our range will be here.) I suppose there is also some possibility of someone folding 99 but I'd be surprised. However it's above 0 chance, people play very strangely in these spots.

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Sure, its above 0 chance.

We have the button and blinds to act after us, right? And they all have us covered but its going to be somewhere between 30-50% of their stack to call. Do players who have survived flipaments for two days take one here? Real life behaviour is often, as you've pointed out, very different from ideal play. I still think there is a big gap concept at work on this kind of shove. The guy in the SB or BB with a healthy stack sure wants to keep it that way going into the FT...
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Old 06-14-2007, 07:03 PM
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Default Re: On the final table bubble in a WSOP Event

We have the cutoff, button and blinds to act after us.
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Old 06-14-2007, 09:37 PM
rick_vaughn rick_vaughn is offline
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Default Re: On the final table bubble in a WSOP Event

Thanks for the responses. I know pushing is fine, just seeing if it was viable to raise and reevaluate. Pushing with 15bb's feels a little weird, even w/ large antes.

I got snap called by AA in the SB. I know if I opened for 3xbb and he reraised I could fold easily (I had played with him alot the past 2 days.) Others behind me were aggressive enough to where I'd have to stack off.

I'm also a pretty regular poster but I'm permabanned (but won't get IP banned since I live with a 2p2 legend,) but still wanted to see opinions. You always think twice about these kind of plays in the biggest poker moment of your life.
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Old 06-14-2007, 10:54 PM
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Default Re: On the final table bubble in a WSOP Event

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Thanks for the responses. I know pushing is fine, just seeing if it was viable to raise and reevaluate. Pushing with 15bb's feels a little weird, even w/ large antes.

I got snap called by AA in the SB. I know if I opened for 3xbb and he reraised I could fold easily (I had played with him alot the past 2 days.) Others behind me were aggressive enough to where I'd have to stack off.

I'm also a pretty regular poster but I'm permabanned (but won't get IP banned since I live with a 2p2 legend,) but still wanted to see opinions. You always think twice about these kind of plays in the biggest poker moment of your life.

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whatv ray screw the haters--My plan was bet/call against anyone but especially given this read that one guy you can fold to and the others snap call I think its fine to bet/call or bet/fold. And I used to play SNG's all the time so I understand ICM and push/fold.
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Old 06-15-2007, 01:20 AM
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obvious allin.
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Old 06-15-2007, 07:20 PM
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definitely limp

what is our shoving range here anyway?
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