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Old 04-18-2007, 07:21 PM
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Default Re: Beware of Absolute Poker

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Because, if you can credit a withdrawal back to your C C then it would be clean money. You can put dirty money on a C C and no, I will not explain how.

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This still makes no sense to me. If you can put dirty money on a credit card, why not just do that and then take out a cash advance to "clean it"? Once it's on the card, it's on the card. I fail to see how putting it on a site first and then taking it right back off to the card cleans it up at all - the hard part would be putting dirty money on the card in the first place. Not that it matters, since they don't allow chargebacks to VISA apparently.
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Old 04-18-2007, 07:25 PM
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With Neteller, there is no risk of charge backs or stolen credit cards. With credit cards, expect identity verification as the norm, almost alway on withdrawal. If you never withdraw anything, there won't be any identity check whatsoever at most sites.

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Who cares if the card is stolen? I was requesting a payment from the poker account back to the CARDHOLDER themselves, at their home address. Can ANYONE explain to me how a stolen credit card could be used to obtain cash for the thief in this manner? There should be no need for a security check in this case. Besides that, if they were REALLY concerned about stolen credit cards, they would do the damn check when I put the money on the site in the first place and used it to gamble with, NOT when I tried to withdraw it back to the cardholder's name and address. This policy still makes no sense to me, and the only answer I have ever gotten from anyone in terms of detailed explanations is "well, it's their policy so deal with it". Which of course is what I am doing, i.e. never using a credit card like that again and certainly never playing at Absolute.
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Old 04-18-2007, 07:27 PM
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Bottom line: It's their site. They get to make the rules. If you can't prove that you have the CC in your possession that's a big red flag. How old did you say you were?
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Old 04-18-2007, 07:30 PM
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Default Re: Listen, these are the facts of life using a VISA card

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Bottom line: It's their site. They get to make the rules. If you can't prove that you have the CC in your possession that's a big red flag. How old did you say you were?

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I am quite old enough to use a credit card, and if they were really concerned with the fact that I had the credit card in my possession they would have asked me for verification BEFORE they accepted my money to gamble with in the first place, since all the real risk is gambling it away on the site. Besides that, I was asking for money to be sent to the cardholder at their home address, which pretty much would prevent a thief from gaining access to it, no? Which part of this grade 3 logic are you having a problem with? I can understand the security check being necessary if I wanted to withdraw the money to some other unnamed bank account or whatever, but that was not the case.
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Old 04-18-2007, 07:32 PM
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Default Re: Beware of Absolute Poker

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With Neteller, there is no risk of charge backs or stolen credit cards. With credit cards, expect identity verification as the norm, almost alway on withdrawal. If you never withdraw anything, there won't be any identity check whatsoever at most sites.

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Who cares if the card is stolen? I was requesting a payment from the poker account back to the CARDHOLDER themselves, at their home address. Can ANYONE explain to me how a stolen credit card could be used to obtain cash for the thief in this manner? There should be no need for a security check in this case. Besides that, if they were REALLY concerned about stolen credit cards, they would do the damn check when I put the money on the site in the first place and used it to gamble with, NOT when I tried to withdraw it back to the cardholder's name and address. This policy still makes no sense to me, and the only answer I have ever gotten from anyone in terms of detailed explanations is "well, it's their policy so deal with it". Which of course is what I am doing, i.e. never using a credit card like that again and certainly never playing at Absolute.

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Every gambling site has the same policy. Not just Absolute. You're coming off as a moron when you keep insinuating that.

It's just standard procedure. Stop trying to make it out like a great mystery. It's credit card standard procedure at gambling sites. Deposit next time using Neteller if you're based in Europe.
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Old 04-18-2007, 07:35 PM
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Trader your a complete moron.. Go climb back in your hole and never come out.. Plus your taking up bandwidth with your stupidity..
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Old 04-18-2007, 07:36 PM
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Default Re: Beware of Absolute Poker

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Every gambling site has the same policy. Not just Absolute. You're coming off as a moron when you keep insinuating that.

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Actually the reason I am not playing at Absolute is the manner in which they handled this more than anything else.

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It's just standard procedure. Stop trying to make it out like a great mystery. It's credit card standard procedure at gambling sites. Deposit next time using Neteller if you're based in Europe.

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Amazing that nobody seems to be able to offer one single detailed explanation for WHY this is "standard procedure" in the way that they are doing it. It makes no sense to ask for verification on withdrawal to the primary cardholder themselves at their home address, unless there is some way that process could be used for fraud. I haven't heard an answer yet.

Anyways, this topic is dead. Let's move on.
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Old 04-18-2007, 07:53 PM
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Default Re: Listen, these are the facts of life using a VISA card

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So you say your underage huh?

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Old 04-18-2007, 08:03 PM
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Trader your a complete moron.. Go climb back in your hole and never come out.. Plus your taking up bandwidth with your stupidity..

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General concept B-
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Old 04-18-2007, 08:08 PM
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Default Re: Beware of Absolute Poker

Anyone else like how he is not responding to the "So your underaged" posts, yet he has basically every other post.

You say you dont want to do it because of the hassle.

You could have send the info 100 times over with the amount of time youve waisted in this thread.

Your not fooling anyone
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