EPT Monte Carlo Trip Report (3rd and Final Part)

[Jurollo]

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I think Adam's a good kid and all but this whole thread has given me a headache. There is way too much ego in this thread and anyone who says this was a good call is off. Adam, you know how to play poker, this is not a good call.

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umm obv a great call, what are u talking about?

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With results it isn't even *that* great of a call...

Blinds 200/400/50

50k stack if he folds....

Board: Qs 4h 2c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 52.828% 52.83% 00.00% 523 0.00 { AcJd }
Hand 1: 47.172% 47.17% 00.00% 467 0.00 { 5s3d }

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That aside, there is an incredible amount of understated arrogance in this post Adam, thats not like you, I am hoping a little attention from reporters hasn't changed you this much.

[BT2]

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I think Adam's a good kid and all but this whole thread has given me a headache. There is way too much ego in this thread and anyone who says this was a good call is off. Adam, you know how to play poker, this is not a good call.

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umm obv a great call, what are u talking about?

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NO. just because someone calls you with nothing doesn't make it great. he would have done this with 52, then Adam would have been crushed.

props on the gutsy call, but as i said, if you had this sort of read pushing pre makes so much more sense. although i would have prolly not even [censored] around in the first place.

[NoahSD]

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I think Adam's a good kid and all but this whole thread has given me a headache. There is way too much ego in this thread and anyone who says this was a good call is off. Adam, you know how to play poker, this is not a good call.

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QFT. Why make a call where you're either

a) slightly ahead

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b) Very far behind.

Especially becuase you said if you'd folded youd' still have a great stack. It's a sick call man, and i'm not trying to rain on your parade, but all you guys sacking him.. it's a stupid call.

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Adam's though process is that Antonius wouldn't shove anything but a hand like what he had. I dunno if he's right about this particular opponent, but that's a pretty reasonable thought process.

[AK87]

The way PA played this hand, it makes Adam's hand nearly impossible to play profitably. For those of you saying shove PF with that read, well if PA can get you to shove AJo for 300BB effective stacks, then he has already outplayed you. If he can get you to flat call PF and call a 600BB pot with no equity and A high, you are at a big disadvantage. If there is anything to learn from this hand, it is that ego has no place in poker. Why would you play for so many chips against PA?

[Ansky]

Yo AK, divide those numbers by 2.

[AK87]

Oops.

[pacecar86]

sry AJ, but, over think leading to be being dead right is still right and dead...why pick PA when softer parts of the table to attack mebbe, eh?

[BarryLyndon]

I think that this post, followed by the next 15 posts, shows the sickening amount of groupthink that goes on in poker. There's no way this was a "good" call. At best, this is reasonable, but when considering that you are 30 minutes away from not being at Patrik's table anymore with 50K in chips, the play may not even be that.

I would smooth call preflop and, if I had to play small ball and let him price himself out of a draw in position, so be it.

Put another way, if this call was against a random LAG (assume same hand history and stack sizes), who is playing well and who wouldn't be at your table in less than an hour it would have almost immediately been criticized. However, the call was made against the male poster boy of 2+2 at a big tourney, so it's "wow, tremendous, you're awesome, write a novel and can't wait to see you at a big final table."

I'm sure that OP is a strong player, and his analytical abilities are indicative of a big success. That is, unless he continues to get wrapped up into playing unecessary big pots against famous "pros," then unecessarily calling off a healthy stack when either WB or at a coin flip.

It's just a thought. We're trying to instruct each other here, and I think that aside from this being a BBV TR, some of the new players at this site should take extreme care before thinking this was a "good" play given stack sizes, time of the event, and to some extent, opponent's range post flop. I think at least part of the reason for this play was an "in the moment" glory hunt (not all of it) and that a significant part of this post, which is entirely in want of self awareness, is self-congratulatory based on incorrect factors (results, opponent's name, nature of tournament).

Having said all of this, it was an intersting, yet questionable and -cEV call. I dare say that if OP wants to be as good as: a. he thinks he is; and, b. he can be, given his eloquent analysis of most hands, he needs to acknowledge this hand as such.

[A_Junglen]

I didn't plan on responding much, I thought my post answered most common questions.

Someone mentioned "Patrik would do this with 52," yea...you're wrong. The same goes for 85, Q7, etc.


Also, stop posting the "slight favorite" hand matchup. Do you really think I thought I was greater than a 3:2 favorite? Of course not, and I was slightly less.


Edit: Thanks for the PokerPages link, I hadn't seen those pictures yet.

[betgo]

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I think Adam's a good kid and all but this whole thread has given me a headache. There is way too much ego in this thread and anyone who says this was a good call is off. Adam, you know how to play poker, this is not a good call.

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umm obv a great call, what are u talking about?

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With results it isn't even *that* great of a call...

Blinds 200/400/50

50k stack if he folds....

Board: Qs 4h 2c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 52.828% 52.83% 00.00% 523 0.00 { AcJd }
Hand 1: 47.172% 47.17% 00.00% 467 0.00 { 5s3d }

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That aside, there is an incredible amount of understated arrogance in this post Adam, thats not like you, I am hoping a little attention from reporters hasn't changed you this much.

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The 53% win percentage is well above the 39% he needs to beat pot odds.