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#42
12-27-2006, 09:37 PM
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Re: Never played Stars, just how good are FPPs?
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[ QUOTE ] lol at "RB Equivalent" theory ...Someone change my mind. [/ QUOTE ] I will try. Let's assume you are a supernova; 1) You collect 100,000 FPPs (likely have it already) 2) You go to the VIP store and buy a $1,500 bonus by two clicks in exchange to your 100,000 FPPs (note - no need for affiliates) 3) You continue to play and collect 10,500 VPPs within next 90 days. As you are Supernova it shouldn't take you more than a week or so. 4) You are automatically credited with $1,500. Nothing is deducted - bonuses, freerolls, fees, none. The FPPs you collected to clear $1,500 are still yours and can be used to purchase the next bonus. So it didn't cost you anything beyond the original 100,000 FPPs. Is that clear? Now can you explain how is that worse than any other rakeback variant? [/ QUOTE ]First 115,000 points your basically chasing a 77x bonus with no rakeback(minus the weak sign up bonus which would help that number some,you most likely will see no other bonus).Then after that,lets assume you dont mind the "cash" issue,even if you are making 40% RB you will most ofton not be clearing a bonus which would make the 40% one of the worst deals online.If we are counting everything as RB,what site wouldnt beat that number with actual RB,bonuses,point value?So i play for a few months,im already in the hole vs.playing somewhere else by at least 10Gs in what i wouldve earned at other sites in perks,just to get one of the worst give back deals online.Thats how. 
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#43
12-27-2006, 09:48 PM
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Re: Never played Stars, just how good are FPPs?
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it is more then equivilent in my opinion... here are some things i have disucessed with the vip boys at PS... Ok, u want to play the 500$ or the 1k tourny they run monthly quaterly... You can buy (2) 215$ tickets at 13k a piece 1.59c on the dollar, then if yer platnum or better u can use them and pay the difference with cash... theres one way of getting a return in cash... (if u plan on playing the big tournys anyhow....) 2) get 180k fpps, and they are worth 3grand.... you can get anything u want practically... If they cant get if for you, YOU buy it (credit card is fine), send them a statement and they credit yer account with cash. I recently talked to PSVIP peeps and they said they would be willing make accomidations to pay off my tuition debt of 5k for whatever the FPP conversion is."hence im buying an education" (probably around 325k)... this is good as cash for me.... (as id be paying the debt in cash anyhow, get liquid folks) Thirdly dont look at the cash u can buy in the stores for FPP thats a scam for dummies, not 2p2ers. There is way better ways to get equity out of yer FPPS.... this coupled with the reasons someone stated before make stars a win-win situation. The game selection aside they RB is very "equivalent" to RB. think outside the box. [/ QUOTE ]If all this is true,its alot better than other things ive heard.It seems strange that they will pay student loans,tuition "anything u want practically",but wont just give you the cash.Is this true,i can write them a wish list,anything goes as suggested?
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#44
12-27-2006, 09:48 PM
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Re: Never played Stars, just how good are FPPs?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] lol at "RB Equivalent" theory ...Someone change my mind. [/ QUOTE ] I will try. Let's assume you are a supernova; 1) You collect 100,000 FPPs (likely have it already) 2) You go to the VIP store and buy a $1,500 bonus by two clicks in exchange to your 100,000 FPPs (note - no need for affiliates) 3) You continue to play and collect 10,500 VPPs within next 90 days. As you are Supernova it shouldn't take you more than a week or so. 4) You are automatically credited with $1,500. Nothing is deducted - bonuses, freerolls, fees, none. The FPPs you collected to clear $1,500 are still yours and can be used to purchase the next bonus. So it didn't cost you anything beyond the original 100,000 FPPs. Is that clear? Now can you explain how is that worse than any other rakeback variant? [/ QUOTE ]First 115,000 points your basically chasing a 77x bonus with no rakeback(minus the weak sign up bonus which would help that number some,you most likely will see no other bonus).Then after that,lets assume you dont mind the "cash" issue,even if you are making 40% RB you will most ofton not be clearing a bonus which would make the 40% one of the worst deals online.If we are counting everything as RB,what site wouldnt beat that number with actual RB,bonuses,point value?So i play for a few months,im already in the hole vs.playing somewhere else by at least 10Gs in what i wouldve earned at other sites in perks,just to get one of the worst give back deals online.Thats how. [/ QUOTE ] Dude, nobody ever said that Stars had the absolute best deal on the net. Nobody said they had the highest rakeback percentage, or the most bonuses, or the best points. The fact that it is a 77x bonus doesn't matter, because rakeback isn't a bonus. It's rakeback. We weren't talking about bonuses. Obviously places like AP have the most bonuses. Nobody ever argued that. Your argument had to do with rakeback. Which numerous people attempted to prove to you, as you're the only person who doesn't understand the concept. If you want to participate in this thread, at least figure out what you're trying to say, because right now you're making yourself look a little dumb.
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#45
12-27-2006, 09:52 PM
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Re: Never played Stars, just how good are FPPs?
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[ QUOTE ] it is more then equivilent in my opinion... here are some things i have disucessed with the vip boys at PS... Ok, u want to play the 500$ or the 1k tourny they run monthly quaterly... You can buy (2) 215$ tickets at 13k a piece 1.59c on the dollar, then if yer platnum or better u can use them and pay the difference with cash... theres one way of getting a return in cash... (if u plan on playing the big tournys anyhow....) 2) get 180k fpps, and they are worth 3grand.... you can get anything u want practically... If they cant get if for you, YOU buy it (credit card is fine), send them a statement and they credit yer account with cash. I recently talked to PSVIP peeps and they said they would be willing make accomidations to pay off my tuition debt of 5k for whatever the FPP conversion is."hence im buying an education" (probably around 325k)... this is good as cash for me.... (as id be paying the debt in cash anyhow, get liquid folks) Thirdly dont look at the cash u can buy in the stores for FPP thats a scam for dummies, not 2p2ers. There is way better ways to get equity out of yer FPPS.... this coupled with the reasons someone stated before make stars a win-win situation. The game selection aside they RB is very "equivalent" to RB. think outside the box. [/ QUOTE ]If all this is true,its alot better than other things ive heard.It seems strange that they will pay student loans,tuition "anything u want practically",but wont just give you the cash.Is this true,i can write them a wish list,anything goes as suggested? [/ QUOTE ] I don't know what you've "heard", but the concept of a concierge service is obviously to get whatever you want. I'm sure there are some limitations, but they will do whatever they can do to try and accomodate you...since...that's...what...a...concierge...serv ice...is...
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#46
12-27-2006, 09:58 PM
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Re: Never played Stars, just how good are FPPs?
Thats your opinion,ive seen a few responces that helped me,none that you have written thanks lol I just wanted to hear other peoples opinions,i felt the best way to get them was to explain how i felt and the reasons why.I really dont care what your view of me is,its irrelevant.
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#47
12-27-2006, 10:03 PM
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Re: Never played Stars, just how good are FPPs?
Ok bro ill quit,dont get too upset.Wrap your little arms around your pokerstar blanky.Im sorry for upsetting you.I planned on dropping it before,but i saw alot of people had interesting and valid points in responding to my posts(once again none from you thanks).I became interested again,my bad.
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#48
12-27-2006, 10:05 PM
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Re: Never played Stars, just how good are FPPs?
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Ok bro ill quit,dont get too upset.Wrap your little arms around your pokerstar blanky.Im sorry for upsetting you.I planned on dropping it before,but i saw alot of people had interesting and valid points in responding to my posts(once again none from you thanks).I became interested again,my bad. [/ QUOTE ] Dude, I'm not upset. I just have no idea what you're trying to say. You said you didn't think it was rakeback equivelant. Then people showed you it was a rakeback equivelant, and you began talking about bonuses. At first I was just trying to help, then I became so frustrated because it really didn't seem like you were listening to anyone.
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#49
12-27-2006, 10:09 PM
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Re: Never played Stars, just how good are FPPs?
"If you want to participate in this thread, at least figure out what you're trying to say, because right now you're making yourself look a little dumb."
"I don't know what you've "heard", but the concept of a concierge service is obviously to get whatever you want. I'm sure there are some limitations, but they will do whatever they can do to try and accomodate you...since...that's...what...a...concierge...serv ice...is." You sounded upset a little lol
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#50
12-27-2006, 10:24 PM
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Re: Never played Stars, just how good are FPPs?
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"If you want to participate in this thread, at least figure out what you're trying to say, because right now you're making yourself look a little dumb." "I don't know what you've "heard", but the concept of a concierge service is obviously to get whatever you want. I'm sure there are some limitations, but they will do whatever they can do to try and accomodate you...since...that's...what...a...concierge...serv ice...is." You sounded upset a little lol [/ QUOTE ] I also have no idea what your trying to say.
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