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#42
11-09-2006, 02:31 AM
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Re: The Well: Whale
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I became significantly tighter and significantly more aggressive. I learned how to use the board effectively to pressure my opponents and get a ton of extra value. [/ QUOTE ] Can you elaborate here? Also, how do you get in so many hands and still do school stuff/other stuff? Just playing whenever you have free time or some other magic formula you could share? How many tables you playing these days? 
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#43
11-09-2006, 03:53 AM
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1. Age, occupation? 2. Toughest level while moving from 25 to 400? 3. Stats over the last 3 months? [/ QUOTE ] 1. 19, poker player 2. 400nl while running bad on party, brutal swings 3. haha it is funny, I was once 28/24, now I am playing 19/16... does that answer your question?
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#44
11-09-2006, 04:03 AM
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Re: The Well: Whale
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Can you elaborate here? Also, how do you get in so many hands and still do school stuff/other stuff? Just playing whenever you have free time or some other magic formula you could share? How many tables you playing these days? [/ QUOTE ] Okay, i'll answer the second part first. I have a class that ends at 6:00pm. I put on my poker mix or whatever, and I play from about 6 until either A) i'm up a lot and my tables fall apart, B) I am even/slightly up after being down, C) I have to be somewhere. I am playing 8 tables, though I just ordered a flatscreen monitor for my laptop, so I will try playing 10. Now, onto the actual content stuff: I realized that I was raising a lot of hands UTG (hands like ATo, KJo, 98s, even like JTs) that have seriously a TINY amount of value if played perfectly. Those hands have a ton of value in position, but OOP they just really suck. They put you in a lot of positions that you dont need to be in. So, I just started folding. Now, I feel really comfortable OOP cause I have cards most of the time, and I am still killing in position. I even tightened up a lot on my blind stealing, as 400nl resteal like crazy. so thats part one, becoming tighter. The other part, about aggressiveness, is less easy to describe. In some ways, I became less aggressive (i.e. spewing with cbets in multiway pots). However, I learned a lot of things about people's hands. OOP, if I cbet a pot, am called, and the turn is an A/K/scare card, I just go ahead and bet again. It works more times than not. In position, if somebody c/c an inconspicuous flop, they will c/f the turn. So I really learned when to 2nd barrel. Then, my pf game improved a ton. I am 3betting constantly vs. people who have wide ranges, and calling frequently vs. those with tight range. For example, lets take two hands in which I have 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] OTB. TAG UTG raises, folds to me, I call. Same situation: Folds to a TAG in the CO who open raises, I 3bet. It's very difficult to play against me in a big pot OOP, and so I put them in a lot of tough positions. Now, lets say he calls the 3bet, and the flop is A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. If he bets, I can call, minraise, do all sorts of things. One thing I am working on now is increasing my range for a flop raise. I feel like a lot of people are folding to my flop raises, as they often indicate a big hand. I am going to start floating less with draws and start raising more I think. Anyways, if theres anything more specific you want, ask or PM me.
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#45
11-09-2006, 04:13 AM
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Re: The Well: Whale
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[ QUOTE ] The other part, about aggressiveness, is less easy to describe. In some ways, I became less aggressive (i.e. spewing with cbets in multiway pots). However, I learned a lot of things about people's hands. OOP, if I cbet a pot, am called, and the turn is an A/K/scare card, I just go ahead and bet again. It works more times than not. In position, if somebody c/c an inconspicuous flop, they will c/f the turn. So I really learned when to 2nd barrel. Then, my pf game improved a ton. I am 3betting constantly vs. people who have wide ranges, and calling frequently vs. those with tight range. For example, lets take two hands in which I have 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] OTB. TAG UTG raises, folds to me, I call. Same situation: Folds to a TAG in the CO who open raises, I 3bet. It's very difficult to play against me in a big pot OOP, and so I put them in a lot of tough positions. Now, lets say he calls the 3bet, and the flop is A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. If he bets, I can call, minraise, do all sorts of things. [/ QUOTE ] Even at $25NL and $50NL????....cause I feel I fold to many cbets when in position with 1/2 callers on flop to a check raise. Any advice towards getting your cbets checkraised, Vs. Lag and Tag. Im 17/9/2.8 on $25 FR TIA
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#46
11-09-2006, 04:29 AM
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Re: The Well: Whale
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Even at $25NL and $50NL????....cause I feel I fold to many cbets when in position with 1/2 callers on flop to a check raise. Any advice towards getting your cbets checkraised, Vs. Lag and Tag. Im 17/9/2.8 on $25 FR TIA [/ QUOTE ] not sure I understand your question, but I am usually not cbetting vs 2 opponents. I don't play FR, but i'd imagine that cbetting in multiway pots is even worse in FR than in 6max.
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#47
11-09-2006, 06:08 AM
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Re: The Well: Whale
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[ QUOTE ] Can you elaborate here? Also, how do you get in so many hands and still do school stuff/other stuff? Just playing whenever you have free time or some other magic formula you could share? How many tables you playing these days? [/ QUOTE ] Okay, i'll answer the second part first. I have a class that ends at 6:00pm. I put on my poker mix or whatever, and I play from about 6 until either A) i'm up a lot and my tables fall apart, B) I am even/slightly up after being down, C) I have to be somewhere. I am playing 8 tables, though I just ordered a flatscreen monitor for my laptop, so I will try playing 10. Now, onto the actual content stuff: I realized that I was raising a lot of hands UTG (hands like ATo, KJo, 98s, even like JTs) that have seriously a TINY amount of value if played perfectly. Those hands have a ton of value in position, but OOP they just really suck. They put you in a lot of positions that you dont need to be in. So, I just started folding. Now, I feel really comfortable OOP cause I have cards most of the time, and I am still killing in position. I even tightened up a lot on my blind stealing, as 400nl resteal like crazy. so thats part one, becoming tighter. The other part, about aggressiveness, is less easy to describe. In some ways, I became less aggressive (i.e. spewing with cbets in multiway pots). However, I learned a lot of things about people's hands. OOP, if I cbet a pot, am called, and the turn is an A/K/scare card, I just go ahead and bet again. It works more times than not. In position, if somebody c/c an inconspicuous flop, they will c/f the turn. So I really learned when to 2nd barrel. Then, my pf game improved a ton. I am 3betting constantly vs. people who have wide ranges, and calling frequently vs. those with tight range. For example, lets take two hands in which I have 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] OTB. TAG UTG raises, folds to me, I call. Same situation: Folds to a TAG in the CO who open raises, I 3bet. It's very difficult to play against me in a big pot OOP, and so I put them in a lot of tough positions. Now, lets say he calls the 3bet, and the flop is A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. If he bets, I can call, minraise, do all sorts of things. One thing I am working on now is increasing my range for a flop raise. I feel like a lot of people are folding to my flop raises, as they often indicate a big hand. I am going to start floating less with draws and start raising more I think. Anyways, if theres anything more specific you want, ask or PM me. [/ QUOTE ] Man, sorry you had to elaborate on all that, but I was mainly interested in what you meant by "I learned how to use the board effectively to pressure my opponents and get a ton of extra value." Although I guess you did kinda touch on that and the other stuff you said is real solid advice (like folding hands like ATo, JTs etc. UTG--such good advice, I think a lot of people try to have LAG stats so they just play more hands period, not play more hands in position and other favorable spots).
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#49
11-09-2006, 06:48 AM
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Re: The Well: Whale
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Did you ever fold KK preflop [/ QUOTE ] Read the thread dude
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