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10-02-2006, 10:15 AM
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Re: The heart of the matter: extradition
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I have written to Peter Mandelson, the European Commissioner for External Trade, to ask for clarification on their position on this. Given previous debates over bananas, scottish woollen textiles, I also think this has the potential to be a sizeable issue. The angle I emphasised was the carve out of US based interests (in particular online horse betting) from the legislation, which reflects protectionism rather than a moral imperative (which sadly is your own business). Not sure whether it is worth other Europeans doing this? I am angry about this legislation, so dread to think the impact on you guys. Condolences, I'm afraid the US has just lost one of its few European supporters. I just don't know what your country stands for anymore. [/ QUOTE ] It's clearly protectionism for reasons you cite. 
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#43
10-02-2006, 10:17 AM
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Re: The heart of the matter: extradition
As a boring point - can companies (as opposed to natural persons) be extradited?
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#44
10-02-2006, 10:57 AM
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Re: The heart of the matter: extradition
Nate,
ya it looks like you nailed it. Im really not that worried honestly. People came to Party, stars etc not because they created anything new but because people had a desire to play poker and they were positioned best. People are still going to want to play poker on the internet, including winning and losing players. other sites will fill the void and outside of the short term I expect things to continue as is. this could actually be a positive thing mid/long term from the competition created from the party/stars void. the bigger concern is not being able to play on a specific site is the funding accounts issue which is still up in the air
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#45
10-02-2006, 12:53 PM
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Re: The heart of the matter: extradition
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party, pacific (888) - gibraltar (UK) stars - isle of man (UK) ongame - sweden full tilt - USA (guess they are the most screwed here?) [/ QUOTE ] Wrong, Full Tilt is another one of the Kahnawake Gaming Commission sites (Canada). [ QUOTE ] paradise - UK (how come they dont cave same as party/888 then?) [/ QUOTE ] I agree with the "read" made by others that these companies with US-facing sportsbooks have already digested the legality issues and are less likely to pull out immediately. [ QUOTE ] crypto - canada [/ QUOTE ] Moving to Ireland. [ QUOTE ] bodog - costa rica ultimate - canada absolute - canada(?) [/ QUOTE ] Ultimate and Absolute are also Kahnawake sites. [ QUOTE ] b2b - sweden wpx - antigua [/ QUOTE ] Summary: it looks like the four Kahnawake sites (Full Tilt, UB, Absolute, Pokerroom) will likely stay in business (to US customers), as will Bodog (Costa Rica) and WPX (Antigua). The publicly traded sites based in UK/Irleand have all pulled out.
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#47
10-02-2006, 01:07 PM
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Nate\'s list of probable sites to stay open to US customers!!
"Summary: it looks like the four Kahnawake sites (Full Tilt, UB, Absolute, Pokerroom) will likely stay in business (to US customers), as will Bodog (Costa Rica) and WPX (Antigua). The publicly traded sites based in UK/Irleand have all pulled out."
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#48
10-02-2006, 01:11 PM
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Re: The heart of the matter: extradition
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The UK will extradite faster than you can type PWNED. This was a very high profile case and I assure you that the people in Gibraltar are VERY familiar with this. Sorry for the negative. http://uk.news.yahoo.com/13072006/34...n-journey.html [/ QUOTE ] Not for this we won't. The Natwest Three (I prefer Enron Three) case did cause a row but what they are alleged to have done would also be a crime in the UK. The UK extradition treaty does fast track extradition whilst the US Senate could not be arsed to ratify your end of the treaty, not enough time in the past 4 years apparently, but no UK judge will extradite someone for something that is not a crime in the UK.
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#50
10-02-2006, 01:55 PM
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Re: The heart of the matter: extradition
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Summary: it looks like the four Kahnawake sites (Full Tilt, UB, Absolute, Pokerroom) will likely stay in business (to US customers), as will Bodog (Costa Rica) and WPX (Antigua). The publicly traded sites based in UK/Irleand have all pulled out. [/ QUOTE ] nate, wouldn't FT have to do a trade off of ownership if they want to stay in buisness, as those who mainly run the company are all americans(Lederer, Gordon, etc)
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