WSOP Day 7 Main Event Thread

[Dynasty]

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Nice... at first I didn't realize that Lynch & Prahlad made the same about of money.

So the $2750 I spent on the last-longer is actually a push. Phew.

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Thanks for letting us know this. We were all really worried about it.

[mlagoo]

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Thought Process on the final hand
by Lenny on 8/8/2006 15:57


Rizen limped with A-6 knowing the chip leader would raise with anything. Gold did raise to about 500k and Eric went ahead and pushed for about 2 million. Gold had a hand again with Tens and called easily.

"Maybe it was a bad play, maybe not. I thought he would be raising any two and if he has a hand maybe I get lucky."

Eric is obviously disappointed with the way he finished but he can be very proud of how he played this tournament as a whole. Great game Rizen, we'll see you online!

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Any non-2p2er lrr's with A6o and he gets roasted here

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Totally agree. I like the play, but not with that particular hand. Here I go trying to discuss hands without being there though.

Also, I think Gold's calling range is probably wider than people are speculating.

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I'd rather do it with a hand like 89s than a dominated hand like A6

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this idea is often thrown around and just as often proven mathematically incorrect, but it certainly hasn't lost any steam.

i'll be interested to see what position rizen/gold were in for this hand. unless its like a SB/BB or a Button/Blind situation, it's a weird spot to choose to LRR, in my opinion. and even on the button i'd rather raise or limp/call or raise/call a push than limp reraise. on the other hand i haven't had one big MTT score and rizen is like over a million now, so he probably knows best.

[pocketjesuits]

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Does anyone do anything right for you?

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Yeah, Cunningham has done everything right so far.

I'm just saying that it takes alot of luck, and noone is 11/1 with such a small percentage of the chips.

[southgapoker]

Who got Cunningham at 750:1 at the start of the ME?

[J.A.K.]

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How so? Are the people criticizing the play being results oriented or not? Rizen clearly is not some random "oooo an ace!" donk off the street, right? He had reason to believe it would work, right? It didn't.

I'm happy to see some ranges and stove #s if you wanna argue the strategy of it. But you tell me if Rizen picked up 25% of his stack by limp-RR'ing Gold, what the reaction would have been?

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My point is, is that in your example, we don't know what hand Rizen has, so we therefore can only assume he made a good play (even if it was a 23o he did it with). It's a different story when we see what cards he did it with.

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Well, OK, but that's less relevant to me, since the cards in Rizen's hand really are secondary to the position, timing, and ranges for Gold to raise and range for Gold to call, and how wide the disparity is, which is IMO the most important factor.

Would it have been a good play with 88? AK? I don't think the fact that he had A6 matters that much. And also, I don't think the response would have been an iota different in my example if at the end had been "Lynch tossed his cards toward the muck, but they landed face up, revealing the Aspade and the 6heart" It still all would have been "yeah, he knows he can't cal without a big hand, and unless he has AA, he's no worse than 30-70. nh Rizen"

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If Tom Landry w/ time running out in the superbowl w/ Dorsett and Newhouse in the backfield had a 4th and 1 and threw a BomB...could the fans at least question it without losing respect for Landry?

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Nice... at first I didn't realize that Lynch & Prahlad made the same about of money.

So the $2750 I spent on the last-longer is actually a push. Phew.

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Uhhh... last-longer not make-morer, right?

[Dynasty]

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I'm just saying that it takes alot of luck...

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Then you aren't saying anything at all.

[AngusThermopyle]

Jamshidi Cripples Holmes to Double Up
Dustin Holmes raises to $225,000 from late position and Sirous Jamshidi calls from the cut-off. The flop comes K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] . Holmes bets $400,000 and Jamshidi asks for a count. Holmes tells him $1,600,000 and Jamshidi pushes all-in for $1,200,000 over the initial $400,000 bet. Holmes thinks for a while before eventually making the call. Jamshidi shows K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] , while Holmes flips up A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and is pleased that he is not that far behind with a flush and Ace draw. The turn is the 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] , giving Holmes even more outs, but the river is the 3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] , doubling up Jamshidi to $3,650,000. Holmes' stack is now down to $400,000 after the hand, leaving him crippled.

[Kevmath]

Doug Kim doubles off of Gold to get to 5m

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Nice... at first I didn't realize that Lynch & Prahlad made the same about of money.

So the $2750 I spent on the last-longer is actually a push. Phew.

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....gonna be sad when the light begins to shine.