***Official May Non-Nit Chat Thread***

[Cry Me A River]

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Do i have to play 250k hands at 100nl to get sueprnovas. I'm moving my moneys to stars so i can gets the rewards and better games selections.

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A little over 200K hands per year:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...&PHPSESSID=

(May be a little more now since those calculations predated Frist)

[Cry Me A River]

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you degens, poor pokerstars.

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Actually, given that you'd be passing up double FPP/VPP I'm not sure if it's worth it - 12 tabling $100NL is worth about $15/hr normally in FPP. At double that, an 8 hour day would be $240 plus whatever your normal hourly winrate is. Even if it's just a couple hundred dollars that's gotta be better than the expectation from hitting one of the key hands.

Maybe if you're a micro player and you have the bankroll to sit at a mid or high stakes table and with a bunch of other folders it might be worth it since you're not giving up nearly as much in FPP value and win rate.

I dunno. I expect there'll be a bunch of threads in The Zoo about this like last time...

[Cry Me A River]

Don't go broke in an unraised pot?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($176.10)
BB ($108.90)
UTG ($93.40)
UTG+1 ($77.30)
Hero ($100)
MP2 ($55.55)
CO ($128.25)
Button ($121.20)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $1, MP2 calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $1, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($5) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $12</font>, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $80</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $99</font>, MP2 calls $42.55 (All-In), SB calls $19.

Turn: ($257.55) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($257.55) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $257.55

Results in white below:
SB has Qs Ks (high card, king).
Hero has 6h 6s (three of a kind, sixes).
MP2 has Jd Td (two pair, jacks and tens).
Outcome: Hero wins $257.55.

[bottomset]

you barely have more than your share of equity there

[D.L.M.]

id suggest playing 200nl, the bump in stakes is quite a bit more bonus, and also if you are a supernova(me) they give you a bonus on a bonus. Im just gonna play more so that i can get enough points so that i can have buy a 1500 bonus and a milestone bonus in the same month.

[Cry Me A River]

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you barely have more than your share of equity there


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Yeh, wierd hand - I'm ahead but I'm basically drawing dead.

With all the action I was really afraid of set over set.

Once again we see the difference between running good and running bad can be razor thin...

[Cry Me A River]

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id suggest playing 200nl, the bump in stakes is quite a bit more bonus, and also if you are a supernova(me) they give you a bonus on a bonus. Im just gonna play more so that i can get enough points so that i can have buy a 1500 bonus and a milestone bonus in the same month.

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Yeah, I think we figured $200NL was about a 20% bump in FPP/hr over $100NL. So with double points that's gonna be pretty sweet. But I'm happy just to be back at $100NL and not getting doomswitched.

Yet.

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[D.L.M.]

yeah, i meant that the milestone hand bonuses are magnified the higher stakes you play, 200nl give you midstakes status. And if you are a nova theyll add to any bonus hit. pretty sweet deal. I got like 250 bucks last time they did this, i think i was playing micro stakes back then.

[chicken10der]

Okay, I'm thinking of moving over to PokerStars via a pre-paid Visa card thing. I figured this would be as good a time as any with the 10Billion promo going. I know there's no 'real' rakeback with PokerStars, but what kind of other compensations are there through bonuses? I always hear things like "well, with ____ status, I basically get __% rakeback" - how does all this work? Is it just buying bonuses with FPPs and VPPs (still not entirely sure how all these work/what the difference is) I've looked around at the PS site, but I was just wondering if anyone could throw in some tips for someone playing real money on there for the first time.

[Cry Me A River]

Yeh, I don't think it made a difference last time what stakes you were playing.

I dunno, I'll think about moving up as the milestones approach but I don't really blow up my bankroll/psyche over it. Particularly since I'm still not sure how I'm going to be getting money on and off Stars and I could wind up really screwing myself if I hit a big downswing at $200NL and then couldn't realod for several days.