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Old 01-06-2007, 10:51 AM
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BTW unless anyone involved objects, i'd be most interested in seeing the chat transcripts between nath, dean and el d when we're all finished.

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they should set up a AIM or msn chat room and cut and paste the text.
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Old 01-06-2007, 11:42 AM
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um did i get bumped out or something? Am I on the panel? I got lost in this threadmonster.

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Old 01-06-2007, 12:02 PM
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Hello all

To the people unsure of the singularity between the sessions. All our data is identical in hands, time played and $ save a few small discrepencies in G2CU's figures..Who actually has less hands. Unless you believe that both dataminers accidently picked up the same session and that the session was about 2 minutes long and lasted 7 hands, you have to admit that all 3 data sets are from the same time period.

Since two corroborate indentically and one does not, I think the terms have been met. But that's for the panel to decide.

FWIW, I have no bias against Nath being on the panel. His comments were all made before we had the second dataminer's results which is what my argument is based around, so he has new evidence upon which he can make a different judgement.

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One possibility is that the session in question happened in the afternoon/evening (I'm pretty sure about this). It may have gone past midnight (I'm not sure about this). There may have been another session in the morning (I have no idea about this). The data miners might have picked up the morning session and left off the session which went past midnight. That session might have been 7 hands longer and 10K less successful. Since that would just be a problem with the way PT matches to what we need, obviously the data miners would have the same (wrong) stats.

It is a situation like that which would be avoided if we had two identical data sets of the ENTIRE session which we could then check for matching times, etc. Right now, we can't even check that the times of the 25/50 data are the same times as the 50/100 data, etc.
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Old 01-06-2007, 12:08 PM
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BTW unless anyone involved objects, i'd be most interested in seeing the chat transcripts between nath, dean and el d when we're all finished.

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they should set up a AIM or msn chat room and cut and paste the text.

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wtf, I'm on the panel?
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Old 01-06-2007, 12:09 PM
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Old 01-06-2007, 12:10 PM
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It may have gone past midnight (I'm not sure about this). There may have been another session in the morning

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i have no idea what time the session started. but when i woke up at like 9am est, he was playing 200-400nl and some 50-100 until at least 1030am est. i am pretty sure about this as i was sweating it while eating some breakfast.
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Old 01-06-2007, 12:13 PM
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see, this is what i'm saying... and precisely why the standard was set at two identical data sets. that way we could check to make sure they're getting the right hands from the right sessions and not just all hands from one day which is not necessarily correct for our bet.
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Old 01-06-2007, 12:13 PM
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This thread was started at 7:31 AM eastern. His results were posted at 3:37 PM.

There were no hands played the day after or day before that were included in the dataminer's stats. And if there were, don't you think it odd that two independant sources would make the same exact error?

EDIT : I think I misunderstood your post, you're saying it's possible that after this session was over, later on that day G2CU played another session which accounted for the 10K.

I don't believe G2CU would play a 7 hand session.

Second edit : In fact, since highstakes.nu's results are in session form, we know for a fact there were no such sessions.
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Old 01-06-2007, 01:12 PM
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A DROWNING MAN WILL CATCH AT STRAWS - "A desperate person will try anything to save himself, no matter how unlikely. The proverb has been traced back to 'Dialogue of Comfort Against Tribulation' (1534) by Thomas More (1478-1535). First cited in the United States in 'Colonial Currency' (1720). The proverb is found in varying forms: a drowning man will clutch at a straw; A drowning man grabs at a straw; A drowning man snatches at straws, etc. The proverb has its counterpart in other languages too." From "The Random House Dictionary of Popular Proverbs and Sayings" by Gregory Y. Titelman (Random House, New York, 1996).

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Old 01-06-2007, 04:39 PM
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For what it's worth I am 110% sure that i made extactly $10,600 and change on the session, as someone had a peice of my action.
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