Ftp stole my money

[ericjones]

What do you mean im not making sense? I want to know who I dumped all this money to from my 1st account and if they are still on the site?

[dknightx]

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Thats the thing I think Doug and Ftp are full of it. Why would I have 7 people doing fraud have them dump chips to me only to lose it back to regulars. Why don't they post hand historys of who I dumped it to and if they are still playing on the site or not? If they are then their statements are 100% false and they are lying.

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"... who I dumped it to ..." - slip?

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you clearly did not understand his post. He is saying, who did he "dump" his money to (the money that he lost), and who are they, clearly it makes no sense for him to get money dumped to him, and then lose it all to REGULAR players, right?

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btw, this is just more proof that you all are already biased against eric and are just trying to find reasons to discount his story. At least hold off judgement until we have the evidence. In my opinion, both are shaky, but FTP seems a lot more shakier to me.

[BurnleyMik]

My personal opinion is that there needs to be an organisation of some kind that is completely independant, where all the sites can pass on possible fraud cases and all the information they have and it can be judge completely impartially. The problem I see is that the sites have too much power in these kind of situations and basically have the right to do whatever they see fit, regardless of whether they can back it up. At the end of the day the poker sites have nobody to "answer to" and therefore if you have an account with any poker site you are just going to have to hope that it is safe. The players need to get something sorted out because basically at the moment you have no rights as a player to dispute anything the site says or does and its that simple.

[Isles]

[stickdude]

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My personal opinion is that there needs to be an organisation of some kind that is completely independant, where all the sites can pass on possible fraud cases and all the information they have and it can be judge completely impartially. The problem I see is that the sites have too much power in these kind of situations and basically have the right to do whatever they see fit, regardless of whether they can back it up. At the end of the day the poker sites have nobody to "answer to" and therefore if you have an account with any poker site you are just going to have to hope that it is safe. The players need to get something sorted out because basically at the moment you have no rights as a player to dispute anything the site says or does and its that simple.

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Actually, they do have someone they have to "answer to" -

http://www.kahnawake.com/gamingcommission/

And right there on the website is a button called "Complaints". I wonder why that would be there...

[Tuco]

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Why would I have 7 people doing fraud have them dump chips to me only to lose it back to regulars.

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Cause you suck at poker and have to resort to stealing, obviously. You tried to give cover play and lost.

Tuco.

[ericjones]

Ya your so right, you should go seek employment at the Ftp fraud team cause you like to accuse people without having any proof just like them.

[BurnleyMik]

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My personal opinion is that there needs to be an organisation of some kind that is completely independant, where all the sites can pass on possible fraud cases and all the information they have and it can be judge completely impartially. The problem I see is that the sites have too much power in these kind of situations and basically have the right to do whatever they see fit, regardless of whether they can back it up. At the end of the day the poker sites have nobody to "answer to" and therefore if you have an account with any poker site you are just going to have to hope that it is safe. The players need to get something sorted out because basically at the moment you have no rights as a player to dispute anything the site says or does and its that simple.

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Actually, they do have someone they have to "answer to" -

http://www.kahnawake.com/gamingcommission/

And right there on the website is a button called "Complaints". I wonder why that would be there...

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I didn't know about these guys...so thankyou, at least it gives a little confidence back. Have you tried putting your case to these guys Eric??

[MarkGreb]

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What do you mean im not making sense? I want to know who I dumped all this money to from my 1st account and if they are still on the site?

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How do we know you didn't dump the first money to another of your crew?

[ericjones]

That is what Ftp should go ahead and tell you, what if the money went to a regular on a site? Yet they choose to remain secretive and not disclose [censored].