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STAGE #737429913: HOLDEM NO LIMIT $4 - 2007-08-18 02:33:01 (ET)
Table: KENDALL (Real Money) Seat #4 is the dealer
Seat 4 - HUGGYBEAR69 ($517.80 in chips)
Seat 5 - DRUNKASHELL ($324 in chips)
Seat 6 - VOTED4KODOS ($448.20 in chips)
Seat 1 - GARY8888 ($229 in chips)
Seat 2 - SUNSHINE497 ($719.60 in chips)
Seat 3 - DEKPLAYA ($400 in chips)
DRUNKASHELL - Posts small blind $2
VOTED4KODOS - Posts big blind $4
DEKPLAYA - Posts $4
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to VOTED4KODOS [Kh Ah]
GARY8888 - Folds
SUNSHINE497 - Calls $4
DEKPLAYA - Checks
HUGGYBEAR69 - Calls $4
DRUNKASHELL - Raises $30 to $32
VOTED4KODOS ?

villian is 33/16/1 1.1/2.5/inf

What is your general read on 33/16/1?

What is your general read on someone who gets increasingly aggressive on later streets?

I think this particular villian is quite erratic and possibly drunk as hell fairly often, but this is early in a session and he can be kinda normal too.

What do you do and what are your plans for the flop if you hit/miss?

[DevinLake]

I'm going to raise it too at least 100 here, and evaluate what to do based on flop texture. But, I'm c-betting a lot. I'm shoving over a donk bet a lot.

[futuredoc85]

if those stats are at all reliable, then id go like $110 and call a push

[microbet]

Yeah, I raised to $104 and he called and then he lead the Qh 7d 5d flop with a push.

I would have been happy to get it all in preflop. (not sure that I was ahead or anything, but it would have been an easy decision and easy decisions make me happy)

Big pots with AK when it misses against LAGGY players often suck. His stats are passive postflop so this shouldn't be a hard fold, but he's pretty bluffy I think so it's not an easy fold and this shouldn't have been a hard spot to foresee.

What do you guys think about the reverse aggression stats in general? I think I'll spend some time in PT with these weirdos.

[DevinLake]

I might have called the flop push.

[futuredoc85]

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I might have called the flop push.

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[blackize]

In my experience the reverse aggression guys love to float and steal pots on the turn or river. They nearly always bet when checked to and donk the river for pot.

[wiggs73]

micro,

I like pre, but I'd fold the flop.

[MadScientist]

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Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 4 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)
SB: $99.00
BB: $103.60
UTG: $179.30
Hero (BTN): $119.15

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q A (4 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $4.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $12.00</font>, 2 folds, UTG calls $8.00

Flop: ($25.50) A J 2 (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $18.00</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises all-in to $167.30</font>, Hero ?

i just sat down at beginning of session

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The Qd blocks some of the hands that you beat, combo draw hands like KdQd. Still, ATs, ATo, and say A9s should be in there cause you will see a few weaker aces as well as all the aces and sets that beat you. There are pair plus flush combos out there too. Your a bit better than a 3:2 dog, imo.
The pot lays you 150:90, so call.
I did some analysis before posting, but my gut feeling is that you have to make a crying call here once you find yourself in this spot and I think my gut was right.
Also, with 200 bb stacks, this is a pretty easy laydown.

[MadScientist]

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Yeah, I raised to $104 and he called and then he lead the Qh 7d 5d flop with a push.

I would have been happy to get it all in preflop. (not sure that I was ahead or anything, but it would have been an easy decision and easy decisions make me happy)

Big pots with AK when it misses against LAGGY players often suck. His stats are passive postflop so this shouldn't be a hard fold, but he's pretty bluffy I think so it's not an easy fold and this shouldn't have been a hard spot to foresee.

What do you guys think about the reverse aggression stats in general? I think I'll spend some time in PT with these weirdos.

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So I don't think his shove is an AQ or a set ever. Problem is against like suited aces and suited kings, 68 and like QT, 88, 99, A7, [censored] I think he could be donking with when I've looked people up these spots, your a 2:1 dog and the pot is laying 3:5.
I think there are better spots to take this monkey to valuetown, plus he might get up and bail if he doubles up through you now which isn't good either.
You do have a backdoor fl and broadway draw which I hate to lay down, but I would do it here.
BTW, the issue is whether he would ever just stone cold bluff you with like a KT or AJ hand.
If i chuck just AJo into a range in which you were a 2:1 dog, then you become like a 42:58 dog which makes it an easy call... So if you think he could be totally FOS, call, but if you think he could play a bunch of pp this way or really be doing this with a lot of Qs, then bail.