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Old 05-02-2006, 04:00 PM
smoore smoore is offline
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Default Re: FPHG

back at party clearing bonuses. found games excessively easy to beat... I guess I've adapted since the "rock garden" brewhaha of the past 12 months. going to stay awhile, even with that horrible rake structure.

anyway, thanks a lot for writing this, I'm a dirty dataminer again. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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Old 05-02-2006, 05:56 PM
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Default [OT] \"rock-ification\"

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back at party clearing bonuses. found games excessively easy to beat... I guess I've adapted since the "rock garden" brewhaha of the past 12 months. going to stay awhile, even with that horrible rake structure.

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One of the sad things about being a self confessed data mining adict (like me! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]), is that I now have so much data over the last two years that I can plot the "rock-ification" of Party's micro-limit full-ring games:

For the games I played in, then 0.5/1 was at 44% avg VPIP, and 1/2 was at 37% avg VPIP two years ago (and I used to think these were tight compared to Pacific's games!). I watched those numbers drop to the stage where I though [censored] this and went off to play 6max...

Now I read stuff in the micro-limit forum about people scanning the tables for 40 minutes to find TWO 0.5/1 tables with a VPIP of 30%, then the SINGLE fish leaving and it going back to 20% VPIP... WTF has happened? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

I can't really see how anybody makes a profit their anymore. I can't see even a good postflop player making 4BB/100 at 0.5/1 these days, and with the killer rake I can't see many good players doing much more than breaking even...

If the current "rock-ification" trend continues then how long until we see -ve VPIPs? [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Lol, just my 2cents about Party - Juk [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 05-05-2006, 09:05 AM
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Default Re: [OT] \"rock-ification\"

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Now I read stuff in the micro-limit forum about people scanning the tables for 40 minutes to find TWO 0.5/1 tables with a VPIP of 30%, then the SINGLE fish leaving and it going back to 20% VPIP... WTF has happened? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

I can't really see how anybody makes a profit their anymore. I can't see even a good postflop player making 4BB/100 at 0.5/1 these days, and with the killer rake I can't see many good players doing much more than breaking even...

If the current "rock-ification" trend continues then how long until we see -ve VPIPs? [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Lol, just my 2cents about Party - Juk [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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I think you're referring to my post on this in Micro-Limits (among other maybe).

I've now changed my tactic and table select weak-tight tables. VPIP-20/PFR-3 tables arent' that bad either.

Then again, I tried some 6-max yesterday night, and it was quite strange to see one 30/5 , three 50+/0 and one 80/0 guy....
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Old 05-05-2006, 12:23 PM
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Default Re: [OT] \"rock-ification\"

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Now I read stuff in the micro-limit forum about people scanning the tables for 40 minutes to find TWO 0.5/1 tables with a VPIP of 30%, then the SINGLE fish leaving and it going back to 20% VPIP... WTF has happened? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

I can't really see how anybody makes a profit their anymore. I can't see even a good postflop player making 4BB/100 at 0.5/1 these days, and with the killer rake I can't see many good players doing much more than breaking even...

If the current "rock-ification" trend continues then how long until we see -ve VPIPs? [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Lol, just my 2cents about Party - Juk [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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I think you're referring to my post on this in Micro-Limits (among other maybe).

I've now changed my tactic and table select weak-tight tables. VPIP-20/PFR-3 tables arent' that bad either.

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I am guessing the advantage to selecting weak-tight tables is the fact they generally all fold before the $5/50c rake kicks in?

I agree the bad postflop play is beatable, but I would still think that even a truly great post-flop player would strugle to make a great deal (4BB/100 was very sustainable at the old tables).

I ran quite alot of simulations (attempting to take into account postflop action - unlike pokerstove) to work out effective 3-handed pre-flop stratergies for the killer rake at 0.5/1 and 1/2, and sadly came to the conclusion that the loss of the 50c at $5 meant that a great of blind plays were just pointless as you lost all your marginal profits from the $5/50c rake after a R/B/B/? line (but I did assume an agressive button and a fairly lose-passive BB - not weak tights who might fold their BB too much).

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Then again, I tried some 6-max yesterday night, and it was quite strange to see one 30/5 , three 50+/0 and one 80/0 guy....

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Yes, I would think that any player who has been turning a profit in the full-ring games will have already of played a great deal of "6max" without realizing bc of all the folding and would IMO be better off just playing 6max for the more juicy fish their are (this is what I eventually did and don't regret it now [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]).

Sorry for the OT stuff to anybody reading [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Juk [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 05-05-2006, 10:49 PM
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Default PT Problem sent to me as a PM

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I'm having difficulties with either pokertracker or FPGH. When I'm at my computer, everything works fine. But when I leave for one hour and come back, I take a look at pokertracker auto-import page and see this :

Starting import, 8 files found...
Timer fired...05/05/2006 12:39:06 AM
Import Finished - 9 file(s) read - 0 new hand(s) were imported.

And it goes on for the whole hour. But at the moment I start being it front of my computer, it starts working, importing about 10 hands/minute.

I am so confused. It doesnt make any sense. Do you have an explanation? Is it a pokertracker issue?

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auto-import option, using a fake pokernow.exe

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Anybody come accross this before, if so can you post how you got it working.

Juk [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 05-06-2006, 02:04 AM
12ressiMorP 12ressiMorP is offline
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Default Re: PT Problem sent to me as a PM

I was having that problem until I had fphg save the files as .txt instead of .hhf...that solved it for me
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Old 05-06-2006, 04:29 AM
Milandro Milandro is offline
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Default Re: [OT] \"rock-ification\"

my stat says im beting that level for a handsome amount of 18bb/100 over 15k.... I scan for 30 minutes and sit in!!!!

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Now I read stuff in the micro-limit forum about people scanning the tables for 40 minutes to find TWO 0.5/1 tables with a VPIP of 30%, then the SINGLE fish leaving and it going back to 20% VPIP... WTF has happened? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

I can't really see how anybody makes a profit their anymore. I can't see even a good postflop player making 4BB/100 at 0.5/1 these days, and with the killer rake I can't see many good players doing much more than breaking even...

If the current "rock-ification" trend continues then how long until we see -ve VPIPs? [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Lol, just my 2cents about Party - Juk [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]

I think you're referring to my post on this in Micro-Limits (among other maybe).

I've now changed my tactic and table select weak-tight tables. VPIP-20/PFR-3 tables arent' that bad either.

[/ QUOTE ]
I am guessing the advantage to selecting weak-tight tables is the fact they generally all fold before the $5/50c rake kicks in?

I agree the bad postflop play is beatable, but I would still think that even a truly great post-flop player would strugle to make a great deal (4BB/100 was very sustainable at the old tables).

I ran quite alot of simulations (attempting to take into account postflop action - unlike pokerstove) to work out effective 3-handed pre-flop stratergies for the killer rake at 0.5/1 and 1/2, and sadly came to the conclusion that the loss of the 50c at $5 meant that a great of blind plays were just pointless as you lost all your marginal profits from the $5/50c rake after a R/B/B/? line (but I did assume an agressive button and a fairly lose-passive BB - not weak tights who might fold their BB too much).

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Then again, I tried some 6-max yesterday night, and it was quite strange to see one 30/5 , three 50+/0 and one 80/0 guy....

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Yes, I would think that any player who has been turning a profit in the full-ring games will have already of played a great deal of "6max" without realizing bc of all the folding and would IMO be better off just playing 6max for the more juicy fish their are (this is what I eventually did and don't regret it now [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]).

Sorry for the OT stuff to anybody reading [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Juk [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Old 05-06-2006, 04:31 AM
Milandro Milandro is offline
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Default Re: [OT] \"rock-ification\"

Then again my rake at that limit is almost as high as my profit, YUK!!!!!!!!!!
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Now I read stuff in the micro-limit forum about people scanning the tables for 40 minutes to find TWO 0.5/1 tables with a VPIP of 30%, then the SINGLE fish leaving and it going back to 20% VPIP... WTF has happened? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

I can't really see how anybody makes a profit their anymore. I can't see even a good postflop player making 4BB/100 at 0.5/1 these days, and with the killer rake I can't see many good players doing much more than breaking even...

If the current "rock-ification" trend continues then how long until we see -ve VPIPs? [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Lol, just my 2cents about Party - Juk [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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I think you're referring to my post on this in Micro-Limits (among other maybe).

I've now changed my tactic and table select weak-tight tables. VPIP-20/PFR-3 tables arent' that bad either.

[/ QUOTE ]
I am guessing the advantage to selecting weak-tight tables is the fact they generally all fold before the $5/50c rake kicks in?

I agree the bad postflop play is beatable, but I would still think that even a truly great post-flop player would strugle to make a great deal (4BB/100 was very sustainable at the old tables).

I ran quite alot of simulations (attempting to take into account postflop action - unlike pokerstove) to work out effective 3-handed pre-flop stratergies for the killer rake at 0.5/1 and 1/2, and sadly came to the conclusion that the loss of the 50c at $5 meant that a great of blind plays were just pointless as you lost all your marginal profits from the $5/50c rake after a R/B/B/? line (but I did assume an agressive button and a fairly lose-passive BB - not weak tights who might fold their BB too much).

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Then again, I tried some 6-max yesterday night, and it was quite strange to see one 30/5 , three 50+/0 and one 80/0 guy....

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Yes, I would think that any player who has been turning a profit in the full-ring games will have already of played a great deal of "6max" without realizing bc of all the folding and would IMO be better off just playing 6max for the more juicy fish their are (this is what I eventually did and don't regret it now [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]).

Sorry for the OT stuff to anybody reading [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Juk [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Old 05-06-2006, 03:18 PM
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Default A FPHG bug sent via a PM

Just posting this here to remind myself, and if anybody else has seen any other strange table names, plz post them here to:

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By the way there's also a small bug.. which isn't really your fault but is fixable When you play on the table Mascot?s Angel (it's a $109 SNG), FPHG doesn't save this table at all because of the ? in the filename. Party doesn't either, but it can be got around by simply replacing it with a space, at least, PHT does this It would be great if FPHG did, too.

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I never saw this, but I can see why i causes problems; as a "?" is not allowed in windows filenames, but it is easy to fix (I'll do it for the next test version).

Juk [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 05-06-2006, 09:11 PM
CharlieDontSurf CharlieDontSurf is offline
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Default Re: A FPHG bug sent via a PM

QUESTION:
Downloaded the software and then unzipped it.
The V.06 folder is on my desktop and it shows its running but the only .hff files showing up in my folder are ones with the name of the table. Should there be a file for every single hand?
Am I doing something wrong?

Haven't even gotten to the import to PT yet.
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