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Old 08-18-2007, 05:02 PM
K䲰䮥n K䲰䮥n is offline
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I just gotta get this out of my chest. First 25k is NL100, the rest NL50. Welcome 40% RB [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Thanks god for my day job.

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Old 08-18-2007, 05:13 PM
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How bad is this? Villain is 23/12 but open-raises nearly 30%, little understanding of position. Cbets 100% over 800 datamined hands. Has high turn aggression, too.

1) Is PF a spew?
2) How's my cbet raise? Should I play this draw more passive?
3) Do you call his shove?

Seat 3: Kooll31 ( $76.94 )
Seat 6: Firetribe ( $49.75 )
Seat 8: panpan13 ( $14.75 )
Seat 10: Kuba1986 ( $53.15 )
panpan13 posts Small Blind $0.25
Kuba1986 posts Big Blind $0.50
Dealing cards
Your cards J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [Firetribe]
Kooll31 raises $2
Firetribe calls $2
panpan13 folds
Kuba1986 folds

Dealing Flop K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Kooll31 bets $4
Firetribe raises $15.25
Kooll31 goes All-in $70.94
Firetribe? Has $32.50 left...
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Old 08-18-2007, 05:24 PM
The Yugoslavian The Yugoslavian is offline
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Ok, so I had played this guy for a while and simply put, he wasn't putting a ton of money at risk with weird/marginal hands. Tbh most of our match had been small pots...he doesn't like continuing after the flop unless he has *something*.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 2 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

BB: $94.80
Hero (SB): $227.85

Preflop: Hero is dealt 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $3.00</font>, BB calls $2.00

Flop: ($6) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $6.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $24.00</font>, BB calls $18.00

Turn: ($54) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $30.00</font>, BB calls $30.00

River: ($114) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets all-in for $37.80</font>, Hero calls $37.80

Pot Size: $189.60 ($0.50 Rake)

He's capable of betting the flop with a draw, any pair, a medium pp (he'd reraise a big one preflop most of the time). Based on his previous play he doesn't donk bet often and I think he'd donk bet draws less than pairs/made hands.

On the turn I thought for a long time between the line I took and checking, then calling the river or raising allin if I boated up. Buuuut, I just saw pocket pairs and stuff like A6 dancing in my head that I could probably stack with a $30 bet. On the river I think my odds are too good to fold here, plus the pot is so big and I've played so few big ones with him, I can't discount that he's not bluffing for it.

What lines do you guys look at closely here?

Yugoslav
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Old 08-18-2007, 05:26 PM
The Yugoslavian The Yugoslavian is offline
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

karp,

You're going to have an easier time getting better if you can spell out exactly what you're thinking/planning for a hand. Also write out what you think on analysis. Poker is a thought process, not a hand quiz guessing game (well, ok, STTs are, lol).

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Old 08-18-2007, 05:32 PM
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[ QUOTE ]
How bad is this? Villain is 23/12 but open-raises nearly 30%, little understanding of position. Cbets 100% over 800 datamined hands. Has high turn aggression, too.

1) Is PF a spew?
2) How's my cbet raise? Should I play this draw more passive?
3) Do you call his shove?

Seat 3: Kooll31 ( $76.94 )
Seat 6: Firetribe ( $49.75 )
Seat 8: panpan13 ( $14.75 )
Seat 10: Kuba1986 ( $53.15 )
panpan13 posts Small Blind $0.25
Kuba1986 posts Big Blind $0.50
Dealing cards
Your cards J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [Firetribe]
Kooll31 raises $2
Firetribe calls $2
panpan13 folds
Kuba1986 folds

Dealing Flop K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Kooll31 bets $4
Firetribe raises $15.25
Kooll31 goes All-in $70.94
Firetribe? Has $32.50 left...

[/ QUOTE ]

Pf is not spew,
your raise should be a little bigger, like 18
getting it in there is standard, if hes got like AK or AA, your pretty much flipping (slightly slightly behind, but close enough)
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Old 08-18-2007, 05:35 PM
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if this guy is only putting money in when he has a hand, then your unlikely to get 2 streets of value here, so checking the turn with the intention of calling a river bet if you miss (obv raising/betting if you boat) is a good idea. also, if he checks blank river id value bet
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Old 08-20-2007, 05:30 AM
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Alright I seek insight from my fellow STTer's.

I ended up playing a few hours last night at Foxwoods 1/2.
Most of the hands I felt I played them well, but I wanted your insight to see if we are on the same page.

First significant hand: I have 260 behind me. Villain is to my right, who has 800 behind him. He is a huge station and plays a wide assortment of hands. I've been at table for two orbits and see him limp call 4 raises OOP.

PF I am in MP1 w/ A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. 1 fold, villain open-limps, next person makes it 14. I make it 36 to go. Folded around, villain calls, original raiser folds.

<font color="red"> Pot: </font> <font color="blue">$88 </font>

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

He checks to me. I bet 65. He calls after a brief moment.

Turn: <font color="red"> Pot: </font> <font color="blue">$218 </font>

K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

He checks to me again. I have $160 left. Villain's range here is literally any two cards. How would you play remainder of the hand out from here and why?
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Old 08-20-2007, 05:36 AM
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I would stick it in now, as he will call with K or heart, or possibly even worse, also if the heart misses and all he had was a draw you wont get his money unless you get it in on the turn.
and thus, just stick it in now
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Old 08-20-2007, 05:51 AM
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Next significant hand. This is at same table.

I have 220 behind me. 2 limpers, I raise Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] to 18 from CO. Button calls, villain from hand 1 calls, other limper folds.

<font color="red"> Pot: </font> <font color="blue">$54 </font>
Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Villain from hand 1 checks. He has me covered. I usually bet here. My reasons for checking is because I know that 1st villain is going to call any c-bet on this paired board. I also have not played a hand yet with the button (whom I have covered). Button bets out $26 (1/2 pot). Villain 1 calls without even thinking.

I feel like I potentially have the best hand still. It's a paired board, and the table style is super lag. I might have mis-played not c-betting when I was checked to. It's $26 to see a pot of $106.

How many of you are firing out when they are second to act on the flop here? How often are you betting/checking here in this type of context/situation?

What is the plan up to this point? For rest of hand if we do call?
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Old 08-20-2007, 06:18 AM
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Hand 3:

I am at a new table. Table is less lag and more straight forward poker. I have 325 behind me at this point.

PF: 2 limpers, 1 raise to 18. 1 caller. I have K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] in CO. I decide to flat call. SB calls, folded around. 4 to the flop, I have position and have everyone covered.

<font color="red"> Pot: </font> <font color="blue">$76 </font>

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Initial raiser bets $35. 2 folds to me. I do not put him on a 9 here. He could have an overpair, or possibly a pocket pair, maybe KJs or AJs. Maybe two overs? Its really hard to put people at 1/2 at foxwoods on hand ranges im finding.

I decide to raise to $100. I know villain is a thinking player, and has shown from other confrontations he is capable of making folds to big re-raises. I obviously have outs if he flat calls my raise.

How would you approach this situation?
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