*Official* Suggestions for Stars Thread

[Archon_Wing]

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How about a predator list? The fish could list all the predators and when someone from that list sits at his table a popup window would warn him and ask him if he wants to leave. Better yet, the system could automatically find a "predator-free" table for him and ask him if he wants to be moved over there.

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Well, better copyright it fast then. You know plagarism runs wild.

[Tuff_Fish]

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tuff-fish is especially frustrated by the evil winning players who are always stalking him.


To be perfectly accurate, I hate having to wait on multitablers to act. A game can be running along quite smoothly with everybody being prompt, then all it takes is for one multitabling jacka$$ to sit down and start with the loooonnnnnggg waits to act and the game tempo goes to hell. I am not against multitabling per se, but against the delays to act.

BTW, in case most of you robots haven't noticed, the fish get a lot fishier whan a game is running along at a fast pace.




if there weren't HUD's the better players would still have the advantage over the worse players.



I am not against HUDs at all. I am unhappy they enable multitablers to stay in the game. I like and use PA HUD. But it is true that it is of less importance to a single tabler.



If there weren't buddy-lists or multi-tabling, the better players would still be seeking out the losing players.



And more power to them, but you don't have to give them radar to see in the dark. Why on earth do you think hunters and fisherman are limited in the tools they are allowed to employ? If they were allowed to use all the technology available, and hunt and fish with no limits, how long would the game and fish last? If legislation doesn't do it, online poker will kill itself if things continue the current way.




tuff-fish has been on this kick for quite awhile and every time we have a suggestion thread for any specific site he goes into his rant about how multi-tabling and HUD's shouldn't be allowed anywhere.




It is my calling...
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Obviously, some people agree and others don't agree.
Thinking that Stars would completely revamp their system to disallow all HUD's and/or PT and only permit 2-tables max is somewhat unrealistic.





Barring legislation, Stars will "survive" but most of you aren't going to like the flavor of the games soon enough. HUDbot Shark vs HUDbot shark isn't going to be real +ev.





The fact is, the 10-tablers really aren't that freaking difficult to beat much of the time.



Make em keep up and I have no problems with them at all.



HUD's don't provide THAT much of an advantage. They help of course. But they don't win for you.



So true.




And bad players are always looking for excuses to justify their losses.




I sometimes lose because:

a) I am not that skilled yet, and

b) I make the mistake of staying in a game full of HUDbots.

But, I am curing both deficiencies as time goes on.


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[samsonh]

Lee,

Please take away chat in sats earlier.

[2461Badugi]

Tuff:

I think it would be great if Stars (or some site) would do something like implement a logarithmically decreasing action timer for multitablers. Two-tablers would get almost as much time to act as one-tablers, but the more tables you added the smaller it would get, so that a ten-tabler would have like three seconds before timing out. People could still multitable, but they'd have to have their act together.

[MicroBob]

Tuff-Fish - I have only seen a couple of your videos but I noticed you took a really long time on some of your decisions. Sometimes the clock started. Sometimes it got all the way down to 2 seconds or so.

A couple of these were because you were busy typing something in chat I believe.


I believe they are edited to show mostly the relevant hands...but it looked like you were the one taking much longer to act than any of your opponents (some of whom may have been playing more than 2 tables for all I know).

So I think this is an awfully strange complaint to have.


I do agree that some multi-tablers who are trying to juggle more tables than they should can sometimes be slow to act.
But I think that the vast majority of them are not nearly as responsible for all the delays that you make them out to be.


The worst delayers I have seen have almost always been single-tablers every time I have checked.
I believe many of these players might have had iffy computers or bad connections or something.

[Jurollo]

I 8 table and more and rarely even have the beep for 15 second warning. If anything people who play a lot of tables act quickly as we check the auto buttons preflop. I think you have a huge misconception about who is really slowing down the games. Generally speaking if someone get to the point where they cant even act in time it is probably -EV, therefore the player wouldn't play X amount of tables as they are losing money by doing so.
~J

[Leader]

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Introducing something that caters towards the more predatory players seems like bad business to me.

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Wow I'm a predator for taking the game seriously and not sucking. WTF? Table and seat selection is part of the game. No different then what to raise UTG. If you want to ignore that, that's fine. It's your money, but don't try to force your bad play on the rest of us.

Lee,

Please don't listen to these people

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Yes, you're a predator. I'm a predator. I make my money (relatively a lot) from the fish. I'd love an improved buddy list system, but I still don't think it's right. Some of the people on this board need to have a more broad view of poker, business, life, etc IMO.

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I don't prey I compete.

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I notice you have a lot of posts. NL HU for bankrolls?

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I don't play big fold poker.

[thedorf]

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I think it would be great if Stars (or some site) would do something like implement a logarithmically decreasing action timer for multitablers. Two-tablers would get almost as much time to act as one-tablers, but the more tables you added the smaller it would get, so that a ten-tabler would have like three seconds before timing out. People could still multitable, but they'd have to have their act together.

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even if this idea accomplished the goals you wanted it to, you still have to consider what would happen to this hypothetical site after all the multitablers left it and took their rake to a site that would accomodate them.

[TheMetetron]

E-PASSPORTE!!!!!

Lee... seriously, please.

Neteller's future is uncertain (and I can't personally use it to cashout efficiently), eChecks aren't working for me (and their future is uncertain), CentralCoin and FirePay are out, your USA customers are running out of options.

E-Passporte has legitimate business outside of the gambling world and is far less likely to jump ship on the USA business. In addition ePassporte provides ATM withdrawal, bank transfer capability, and a free virtual Visa to its customers. Full Tilt Poker has already embraced it and I think it would be good for you guys as well. It would personally be my preferred option because right now I am having to open various offshore accounts to get a Visa that will work with Stars. Hardly the least expensive thing ever.



Anyone know Lee's email by any chance?

[bsheck]

Two suggestions:

-Run it twice tables. Have some designated NL and PL tables at each $ level where if there's an all-in, the remaining street(s) are automatically run twice. I think this would be a big hit.

-The option for deepstack private tourneys.