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Old 06-06-2007, 12:14 PM
1p0kerboy 1p0kerboy is offline
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Default Re: ** Official June Chat Thread: The Flush **

The good ole' limp-reraise with aces seems to be working kinda crappy today. Converter is messed up. I lost first hand when CO pushed with AK and BB repushed with AQ.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($125.90)
Hero ($204.60)
UTG ($100)
MP1 ($27.30)
MP2 ($104.95)
CO ($15)
Button ($137.15)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
Hero calls $1, UTG calls $1, MP1 calls $1, MP2 calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $15</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $29.70, UTG folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds.

Flop: ($49.70) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Turn: ($49.70) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: ($49.70) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $49.70

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Ah Ac (two pair, aces and queens).
CO has Ad Kd (one pair, queens).
Outcome: Hero wins $49.70. </font>

[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP2 ($138.35)
MP3 ($141.10)
CO ($62.30)
Button ($98.50)
SB ($97.40)
BB ($100)
Hero ($174.20)
UTG+1 ($493.10)
MP1 ($38.85)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Hero calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $3</font>, MP2 calls $3, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $33</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $38.85</font>, MP2 folds, Hero calls $5.85.

Flop: ($82.20) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Turn: ($82.20) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: ($82.20) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $82.20

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has As Ac (one pair, aces).
MP1 has Ks Kd (three of a kind, kings).
Outcome: MP1 wins $82.20. </font>

[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

And then I played this hand where I was fortunate enough to make quads while my opponent played his full house HORRIBLY.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG+1 ($100)
MP1 ($53)
MP2 ($321.10)
MP3 ($112.05)
CO ($118.50)
Hero ($176.05)
SB ($27.30)
BB ($24.25)
UTG ($95.50)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $1, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB checks.

Flop: ($3.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $6</font>, Hero calls $3.

Turn: ($15.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $12</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $24</font>, Hero calls $12.

River: ($63.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets $30</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $145.05</font>, UTG+1 calls $39 (All-In).

Final Pot: $277.55

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
UTG+1 has As 2s (full house, jacks full of aces).
Hero has Jh Qd (four of a kind, jacks).
Outcome: Hero wins $277.55. </font>

[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

And what was this guy thinking? Glad I was able to re-suck on him.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($84.90)
UTG ($48.55)
UTG+1 ($32.35)
MP1 ($100.30)
MP2 ($96.20)
CO ($141.65)
Hero ($87.10)
SB ($138.80)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $1, MP1 calls $1, MP2 calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $3</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $2, MP1 calls $2, MP2 calls $2, Hero calls $2.

Flop: ($16) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets $11.5</font>, MP2 calls $11.50, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $84.1</font>, SB folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $72.60.

Turn: ($195.70) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: ($195.70) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $195.70

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
MP2 has 4c 5c (straight, six high).
Hero has 8d 6d (full house, sixes full of eights).
Outcome: Hero wins $195.70. </font>
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Old 06-06-2007, 12:21 PM
the_main the_main is offline
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Default Re: ** Official June Chat Thread: The Flush **

Play bad, get there

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 9 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $402.00
BB: $470.20
UTG: $705.15
<font color="black">the_main (UTG+1): $511.90</font>
MP1: $180.35
MP2: $429.45
MP3: $406.70
CO: $402.65
BTN: $193.60

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> the_main is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (9 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">the_main raises to $16.00</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">MP3 raises to $44.00</font>, 4 folds, <font color="red">the_main raises to $200.00</font>, <font color="red">MP3 raises all-in to $406.70</font>, the_main calls $206.70

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($819.40) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($819.40) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

<font color="black">River:</font> ($819.40) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $819.40 ($3 Rake)

MP3 had A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and LOST (-$406.70)
the_main had A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a straight, Ten to Ace) and WON (+$409.70)
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Old 06-06-2007, 12:23 PM
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Default Re: ** Official June Chat Thread: The Flush **

Pokerboy,

Use the lego converter
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Old 06-06-2007, 12:38 PM
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Default Collusion, or just idiots?

I wanted to get a second opinion here before I report this to FT, but I'm not sure if this is collusion or if these guys are just plain stupid.

1st hand:
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($18)
MP ($27.80)
CO ($15.05)
Button ($24.50)
Hero ($53.45)
BB ($55.50)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $1</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $1.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $2.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $3</font>, CO calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $3.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $4</font>, CO calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $4.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $5</font>, CO calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $5.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $6</font>, CO folds, UTG folds.

Final Pot: $16.75

Results:
No showdown. MP wins $16.75.


CO very reluctantly came along here the whole way, only to finally give up calling. UTG then immediately folded. CO leaves the table, leaving only me with the two I suspect of collusion. I get involved in the next hand. I start by just calling along to see if this is a pattern or not, but get sick of it and push. Surprisingly, they called. Look at what they both called me with.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (3 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($14)
Button ($38.30)
Hero ($52.70)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $1</font>, Hero calls $0.75, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $1.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $2</font>, Hero calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $2.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $52.7 (All-In)</font>, BB calls $11.50 (All-In), Button calls $35.30 (All-In).

Flop: ($90.60) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 3 all-in)</font>

Turn: ($90.60) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 3 all-in)</font>

River: ($90.60) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 3 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $90.60

Results:
Hero has 8c Ac (two pair, eights and fives).
BB has 3c 8h (two pair, eights and fives).
Button has Tc 3d (one pair, fives).
Outcome: Hero wins $90.60.

I just don't get it. I'm not necessarily complaining because jamming with A8s is obviously profitable against this, but I want to know if I should report this or not.

Edit: Meant to post this in uNL not Full Ring, but oh well. Your opinions can matter too. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 06-06-2007, 12:42 PM
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Default Re: Collusion, or just idiots?

[ QUOTE ]
I wanted to get a second opinion here before I report this to FT, but I'm not sure if this is collusion or if these guys are just plain stupid.

1st hand:
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($18)
MP ($27.80)
CO ($15.05)
Button ($24.50)
Hero ($53.45)
BB ($55.50)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $1</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $1.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $2.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $3</font>, CO calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $3.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $4</font>, CO calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $4.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $5</font>, CO calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $5.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $6</font>, CO folds, UTG folds.

[/ QUOTE ]
REPORT THAT [censored]!!!

BTW, nice hand with A8. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 06-06-2007, 12:55 PM
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[ QUOTE ]
REPORT THAT [censored]!!!

BTW, nice hand with A8. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]

Thanks. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] I figured it was good enough. Ha.
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Old 06-06-2007, 12:57 PM
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[ QUOTE ]
I'm not sure if this is collusion or if these guys are just plain stupid.

[/ QUOTE ]

That would be both.
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Old 06-06-2007, 01:14 PM
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Default Re: Collusion, or just idiots?

Quester,

Go ahead and report it. They may just be retards, but FTP will have access to their entire hand histories and see if they're pulling these stunts together a lot.
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Old 06-06-2007, 01:21 PM
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[ QUOTE ]
Quester,

Go ahead and report it. They may just be retards, but FTP will have access to their entire hand histories and see if they're pulling these stunts together a lot.

[/ QUOTE ]

Just did. Thanks everyone for the input. I guess this was my good deed for the year.
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Old 06-06-2007, 01:24 PM
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Default Re: Collusion, or just idiots?

Isn't working for yourself great? Blowing off playing this afternoon to go jump in the ocean. [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] my life.
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