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Old 12-06-2006, 02:14 PM
JasonK JasonK is offline
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If you don't even know what MMA stands for you should just STFU because you clearly don't know what you're talking about.
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Old 12-06-2006, 07:17 PM
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i'll try and go through and post some answers to some of the points here later. whoever said i should judge that show- you are correct- although i have seen at least one of those shows that attempted to measure punching power and the way they measured was an inconsistent joke. to whoever said a karate guy punches harder than a boxer is clueless. karate (except kyokushin) is a joke. and, their punches suck, because they don't punch to the head.
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Old 12-06-2006, 07:45 PM
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i'll try and go through and post some answers to some of the points here later. whoever said i should judge that show- you are correct- although i have seen at least one of those shows that attempted to measure punching power and the way they measured was an inconsistent joke. to whoever said a karate guy punches harder than a boxer is clueless. karate (except kyokushin) is a joke. and, their punches suck, because they don't punch to the head.

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That was me. The show is National Geographic's, "Fight Science". I think everybody participating on this thread would enjoy it and might even learn a few things.

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Old 12-06-2006, 11:28 PM
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Street fighter.

There are way more street fighters than any of the other groups. Just like because of the sheer number advantage will push the decision in their favour even if they are on average less skilled.
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Old 12-06-2006, 11:50 PM
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Street fighter.

There are way more street fighters than any of the other groups. Just like because of the sheer number advantage will push the decision in their favour even if they are on average less skilled.

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There's a lot more street basketball players than NBA players too.
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Old 12-06-2006, 11:51 PM
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8) UFC guy vs Martial Artist
I think the only difference between many UFC fighters and martial artists is the amount of time they spend training. UFC fighters have no life outside of fighting, so they win through a sheer training advantage.

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This is so funny, it so depends on what kind of martial artist. A UFC fighter trains to win UFC events never trains to win fights to the death, where many martial artist do train for life and death situations. So funny...
You guys watch way to much TV.
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Old 12-07-2006, 12:07 AM
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8) UFC guy vs Martial Artist
I think the only difference between many UFC fighters and martial artists is the amount of time they spend training. UFC fighters have no life outside of fighting, so they win through a sheer training advantage.

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This is so funny, it so depends on what kind of martial artist. A UFC fighter trains to win UFC events never trains to win fights to the death, where many martial artist do train for life and death situations. So funny...
You guys watch way to much TV.

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You obviously know nothing about the mix of martial arts used in MMA. 100% of it is completely applicable to a fight to the death, and this mix has already been shown to dominate over any individual martial arts. Those submissions aren't for pain, they do real damage if nobody taps out. In fact, some of them are quite painless.

How do the martial artists you speak of train to fight to the death? Do they actually practice fighting to the death? No, they don't. UFC is the closest you can have to a fight to the death, and that is exactly what they train for, can experiment to find the best martial arts, refine their techniques, etc. The mix of martial arts a UFC fighter possesses is the mix that is most effective and practical.

The reason there's specific competitions for specific martial arts with specific rules is because they are too one dimensional to last in a no holds barred setting. They are an art, or a sport, but they are not practical fighting.

It's funny that you mention watching too much TV, as it is clear to anyone with real knowledge of this subject that that must be where you got most of your information from. Ninjas, Kung Fu masters, etc wouldn't stand a lick of a chance against a UFC champion. You also clearly don't understand the dominance of grappling. This has been showed in the history of (real) fighting over and over again.
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Old 12-07-2006, 12:10 AM
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UFC is the closest you can have to a fight to the death

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Closer than unprotected Asian Muay Thai, where bones are frequently broken?
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Old 12-07-2006, 12:15 AM
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UFC is the closest you can have to a fight to the death

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Closer than unprotected Asian Muay Thai, where bones are frequently broken?

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Yes, because the fight can't go to the ground Muay Thai. That's a gigantic gap between the sport and a real fight.

BTW, Muay Thai is one of the practical martial arts. It what most UFC train in for their stand up fighting. But again the ground game is most important.
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Old 12-07-2006, 07:54 AM
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UFC is the closest you can have to a fight to the death

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Closer than unprotected Asian Muay Thai, where bones are frequently broken?

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Yes, because the fight can't go to the ground Muay Thai. That's a gigantic gap between the sport and a real fight.

BTW, Muay Thai is one of the practical martial arts. It what most UFC train in for their stand up fighting. But again the ground game is most important.

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Guess this is a matter of opinion, but it just seems to me that bones being broken is closer to a death match than ground-based submission holds which cause no real harm because of the tapping out rule.
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