Ftp stole my money

[ericjones]

I would but whats to say your not 1 of these crazed maniacs wishing death upon me that wants to harm me because the holy Ftpdoug has accused me of being a criminal without 1 spec of evidence. How shocking that Ftpdoug is silent in all this and has no wish to produce any evidence for the forum to see.

[Gregg777]

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If he wants his money at this point, he needs to give an explanation for his actions. He hasn't even tried.

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I don't give a crap about Eric, but I do want to know why FTP is being elusive regarding concrete evidence that would clear this matter up very quickly.

Do you see why?

[MarkGreb]

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Not everyone are hardcore poker players that save hand histories and have easy recall of hands played. They are casual gamblers.

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I find it hard to believe a casual gambler wouldn't recall some of the details of winning $14K.

It would be a story he'd tell everyone he met - in great detail.

It's not like winning $20 with a lotto scratch ticket.

[RoundGuy]

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I would but whats to say your not 1 of these crazed maniacs wishing death upon me that wants to harm me

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If this were the case, couldn't he just pay a little visit to your house? How many Eric Jones' can there be in Stroudsburg?

[ericjones]

How would he find out where I lived, my house and bills are under my wife not me.

[suzzer99]

Keep in mind that he was told the next day after winning $14k that he may not be able to get his money. And still he remembers no details of the night before. Details such as whether or not he won $8k off of one single person. His refusal to either confirm or deny that this happened means he's guilty. End of story.

[ericjones]

Who told me next day? All they told me I was going under a "routine audit" and to be patient? Where did they mention anything about the possibility of me not getting my money?

[AbreuTime]

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How would he find out where I lived, my house and bills are under my wife not me because my credit is bad, I commit fraud, and would launder money if I knew how .

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[RoundGuy]

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How would he find out where I lived, my house and bills are under my wife not me.

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"crazed maniacs wishing death" will be able find you.

omg, I've having a "Terminator" flashback....

[Synergistic Explosions]

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If he wants his money at this point, he needs to give an explanation for his actions. He hasn't even tried.

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His explanation has been clear. He played a number of hands for coverplay that were legit, and he wants Doug to post those hands so he can state there isn't collusion evident in those hands.

The hands that were used to chip dump between were played normally and look legit and it's not his fault the guy was a donk and lost all his money to him. Then he took that money and won additional money through normal play for the rest of the day. When he assumed he played enough cover hands to make it all look legit, he cashed out stating it was normal to deposit 600 bucks and cash out 14k within a day or two time frame. Even though the credit card ink hadn't even begun to process through the system.

It's obvious he assumed because of his coverplay he would look legit and not the receipient of money from some random credit card fraudsters who initially dumped to him early on.

Hence we see the prior evidence of account creation with similar patterns with negative results leading to his next attempt with a new account created shortly thereafter, which he acknowledged only after FTPDoug exposed it. Erics explanation for creating a second account fits into the pattern of someone who was bent on additonal attempts at credit card fraud.

All in all, the evidence has been very clear to me that Eric was part of a gang of credit card fraudsters who do this on a regular basis, with some success.

It is standard procedure to blackmail sites who catch the fraud through postings on poker message boards in order to squeeze the sites for their illigal profits by hoping the sites will deem the negaitive publicity as more costly than what it would cost to pay the crooks off to make them go way.

Therefore, the crooks create brand new message board names and make their first posts about how a site stole from them, in big bold letters on the subject line.

You don't see many established posters who claim to have been stolen from by sites. This is why. It doesn't happen enough to worry about. An honest player just isn't suspected of fraud because they have a long pattern of play that can be investigated by the site. It's these crooks who create multiple accounts, play for several hours then cash out everything that have these problems, and 99% of the time they are actually crooks.

Eric, give it up you POS.