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09-22-2006, 10:42 PM
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Why would Ebay want that? [/ QUOTE ] Paypal protection by hurting their online pay competitors that support gambling. [/ QUOTE ] I don't think this is true. It is more likely that Ebay realizes that people are spending a lot of petty cash on gambling. If there's no gambling, people would be more likely to spend idle, sitting around the house on the internet money on auctions. having your competitors' customers prosecuted would be an odd competitive strategy. [/ QUOTE ] It absolutely is true. Neteller has blown up because Paypal refuses to allow gambling transactions. It takes away the largest market for their main competition, why would that make anything but sense? 
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#392
09-22-2006, 10:43 PM
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So are we done for the week? Can someone give us a state of the union? [/ QUOTE ] Til Monday Doesnt mean stuff wont be happening over the weekend, but that should be at the staff level. Id be surprised if anything public occurred until Monday
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#393
09-22-2006, 11:39 PM
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berge, mr. K, ty ty ty ty for your attentiveness and your patience in answering all of our questions/keeping us posted. Also ty Nate for your continued thorough analysis. Hopefully this will end this week and you can take a well-deserved rest till the lame duck session
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#394
09-22-2006, 11:45 PM
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Hopefully this will end this week and you can take a well-deserved rest till the lame duck session [/ QUOTE ] 1.) Bahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahha!!! Rest? Yeah freaking right. 2.) Thanks for the kind words -- this is a very interesting forum to participate in due to the diverse viewpoints of everyone involved, and the productive dialogue that seems to be the norm day in and day out.
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#395
09-23-2006, 12:59 AM
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Are any of our Senators poker players?
Mr.K, Berge,
Do you know if any Senators play poker? If one or more does enjoy playing poker, they could possibly champion our cause here. Certainly there is a rich tradition of politicians enjoying playing poker. Maybe seeing poker as an American pastime AND a game of skill, and a game where you aren't playing against the house, could help to get poker excluded from this legislation.
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#396
09-23-2006, 01:12 AM
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Why would Ebay want that? [/ QUOTE ] Paypal protection by hurting their online pay competitors that support gambling. [/ QUOTE ] I don't think this is true. It is more likely that Ebay realizes that people are spending a lot of petty cash on gambling. If there's no gambling, people would be more likely to spend idle, sitting around the house on the internet money on auctions. having your competitors' customers prosecuted would be an odd competitive strategy. [/ QUOTE ] It absolutely is true. Neteller has blown up because Paypal refuses to allow gambling transactions. It takes away the largest market for their main competition, why would that make anything but sense? [/ QUOTE ] because you can't use neteller for anything else (to my knowledge). do big corporations really make petty, resentful, "if i can't have it, no one can" moves going so far as to lobby congress to change legislation? i would think their beef with online gaming is that it takes ecommerce $$$ out of their pockets. why would that make anything but sense? Edit: btw, when you say "it absolutely is true," do you know this for a fact or are you just guessing?
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#397
09-23-2006, 01:14 AM
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do big corporations really make petty, resentful, "if i can't have it, no one can" moves going so far as to lobby congress to change legislation? [/ QUOTE ] No, but they lobby Congress for trade protection all the time. Cynical, yes. Resentful, no.
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#398
09-23-2006, 01:18 AM
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[ QUOTE ] do big corporations really make petty, resentful, "if i can't have it, no one can" moves going so far as to lobby congress to change legislation? [/ QUOTE ] No, but they lobby Congress for trade protection all the time. Cynical, yes. Resentful, no. [/ QUOTE ] is it really trade protection if neteller offers no real competition besides gambling transactions (an area paypal seems to have no plans to enter into again)?
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#399
09-23-2006, 01:21 AM
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My understanding is that Neteller has a much bigger market for non-gaming stuff in Europe, a market which PayPal is very interested in expanding into.
Edit: Here's an article from the Cato Institute which was posted here a few months back.
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#400
09-23-2006, 01:23 AM
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My understanding is that Neteller has a much bigger market for non-gaming stuff in Europe, a market which PayPal is very interested in expanding into. [/ QUOTE ] oh, i didn't know that. i've never found anything i could spend my neteller loot on that wasn't poker related.
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