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Old 04-14-2006, 06:30 PM
Jurollo Jurollo is offline
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Default Re: How bad can you be with AA in an MTT?

It isnt even a real hand. It was posted to make a point. Any hand can be in real bad shape in the perfect scenario.
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Old 04-14-2006, 06:33 PM
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Default Re: How bad can you be with AA in an MTT?

booo hoooo...you lost with aces. get over it. you know damn well that flop wins for you 99% of the time. stop crying, put this in a bad beat forum
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Old 04-14-2006, 06:33 PM
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It isnt even a real hand. It was posted to make a point. Any hand can be in real bad shape in the perfect scenario.
~Justin

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So this is a flmae thread then.
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Old 04-14-2006, 06:36 PM
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No it isnt. It is an indictment of weaktight thinking based on unrealistic matchups. Which was generally the thrust of your post with the OESD + FD. You generally seem to play as if your opponent has the best possible hand he could have. If anything your thread should have been moved to BBV. This is simply a post that, in a tongue IN check (Tyler Durden that is for you) way says that any hand CAN be vulnerable and thinking like that can be a huge detriment.
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Old 04-14-2006, 06:53 PM
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booo hoooo...you lost with aces. get over it. you know damn well that flop wins for you 99% of the time. stop crying, put this in a bad beat forum

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95.6%, actually [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] Good job reading this thread though.
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Old 04-14-2006, 06:53 PM
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booo hoooo...you lost with aces. get over it. you know damn well that flop wins for you 99% of the time. stop crying, put this in a bad beat forum

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rofl

You're not very quick, are you?
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Old 04-14-2006, 07:05 PM
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No it isnt. It is an indictment of weaktight thinking based on unrealistic matchups. Which was generally the thrust of your post with the OESD + FD. You generally seem to play as if your opponent has the best possible hand he could have. If anything your thread should have been moved to BBV. This is simply a post that, in a tongue IN check (Tyler Durden that is for you) way says that any hand CAN be vulnerable and thinking like that can be a huge detriment.
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Then it is a flame thread.

How do you know that I play as if my opponent has the best possible hand he could have? Have you seen me play that way?

I don't think my play is weak/tight. I think I play classic TAG, but I can switch to LAG or very tight, depending on the situation.

I certainly don't play rebuys the way you do, before or after the rebuy period. However, I don't see why playing very tight when people are playing like maniacs is playing weak/tight.

I think I posted in my thread on my Masters ME that a lot of my success was due to playing aggressively and exploiting weak/tight play.

I said I appologized for that thread. However, since you bring it up, I was making a point, which I didn't explain very well.

An open ended plus flush draw or open ended straight flush draw is a great hand to semibluff with, particularly with shallow money. However, if you get action with it, it is not likely to be more than slightly ahead, but it can be significantly behind. It is worse against overcards plus higher flush draw, but it is in bad shape against a higher flush draw or a set.

Now when Hellmuth folded the OESFD against an overbet push, he was about even against two pair, but he could have been in bad shape against a higher flush draw, possibly plus a pair, or a set. There was little chance he was significantly ahead, as no one sane would push into the dangerous baord with one pair.

I generally play the straight flush draw strongly, but I have had a number of situations where I wound up badly dominated versus a higher flush draw, so I think that is something to consider. Obviously, I showed a bad example, since making a ridiculously big overbet push was fine for the rebuy period.

I don't see the relevance of aces full being dominated. AA and any set are usually big favorites. A straight flush draw is unlikely to be a big favorite if you get considerable action.

I have already explained this on the other thread, but since you started a new flame thread, I am explaining it here.
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Old 04-14-2006, 07:10 PM
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I really hate this thread.
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Old 04-14-2006, 07:24 PM
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Default Re: How bad can you be with AA in an MTT?

Same problem with me on pokerstars. I think the online uses a ramdom number generator while live casinos use human dealer to shuffle. That's the difference.
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Old 04-14-2006, 07:36 PM
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Default Re: How bad can you be with AA in an MTT?

You take things way too:
a) seriously
b) personally

If anything I am flaming your play and doing so in a fairly obviously light hearted thread.
~Justin
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