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Old 03-17-2006, 04:28 PM
jmillerdls jmillerdls is offline
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Default Re: First time tempted to fold KK preflop.

I was quite convinced he held AA...I just didn't think I was "allowed" for fold KK preflop. From this thread, I now know otherwise.
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Old 03-17-2006, 04:29 PM
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Default Re: First time tempted to fold KK preflop.

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I was quite convinced he held AA...I just didn't think I was "allowed" for fold KK preflop. From this thread, I now know otherwise.

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Meh. I dont like preflop folding KK, believe me. I seen too much crap shown down. That said, Ive yet to encounter a nit of this magnitude playing NL. Treat this as exactly what it is, a corner case.
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Old 03-17-2006, 04:37 PM
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Default Re: First time tempted to fold KK preflop.

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I was quite convinced he held AA...I just didn't think I was "allowed" for fold KK preflop. From this thread, I now know otherwise.

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Meh. I dont like preflop folding KK, believe me. I seen too much crap shown down. That said, Ive yet to encounter a nit of this magnitude playing NL. Treat this as exactly what it is, a corner case.

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Agreed...I may never run into this type of situation again...but if I do, I won't lose a buyin next time.
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Old 03-17-2006, 04:57 PM
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Default Re: First time tempted to fold KK preflop.

I have never seen a 7/0 over 1600 hands at any of my tables (obviously they are not on my buddy list). This hand is the exception to the rule. I don't recall seeing anything this compelling ever posted before. A 7/0 is only playing pp and AK. When he pushes it's AA and nothing else. Incorrectly folding KK against this particular villain would be a very small mistake given your read and the PT stats to back it up.
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Old 03-17-2006, 05:06 PM
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Default Re: First time tempted to fold KK preflop.

So, in other words, it would have helped if I had known this beforehand.
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Old 03-17-2006, 05:17 PM
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Default Re: First time tempted to fold KK preflop.

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So, in other words, it would have helped if I had known this beforehand.

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YES! (Don't you have PA HUD? If not, it would have paid for itself on that hand alone.)

Against an unknown or normal player, it is a call every time.
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Old 03-17-2006, 05:23 PM
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Default Re: First time tempted to fold KK preflop.

There is a time and place for folding kings preflop... do you usually do it? no folding them is usually a big NO.

but if there is strong evidence in the favor of folding, then go with it and fold.

When tightnights who never raise and only play 7% of their hands actually RAISE all in then it is going to be a tough call with KK.
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Old 03-17-2006, 05:28 PM
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Default Re: First time tempted to fold KK preflop.

This fold is quite easy IMO.

Anyway, did we ever figure out whether or not PT doesn't count limp-reraises in PFR?
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Old 03-17-2006, 05:30 PM
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Default Re: First time tempted to fold KK preflop.

fold pf please
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Old 03-17-2006, 05:31 PM
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Default Re: First time tempted to fold KK preflop.

I definately have PAHUD..and this is why I was tempted to fold...but then I remembered back on the vast number of posts in this very forum that chastised anyone for even considering folding KK preflop.
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