Player Discussion

[ggbman]

AQ is only going to be ahead on the flop 1/3rd of the time, so unless he can win the pot every time he flops a gutter or a spade draw through sheer agression, i'll take the JJ. Also, there are very flops very JJ loses a lot of money when behind unless he flops a set against a flush, whereas AQ might lose a lot on AJx flop ot Qjx flop. Just my inital response.

[edge]

Make it AKs and there's more of a debate. I sometimes prefer 99 to AQs.

[Mason Malmuth]

Hi Everyone:

The question isn't whether jacks is better than ace-queen suited. If you raise with ace-queen suited and get a good sized reraise, as long as the player is playing somewhat rationally you have to fold.

The question is regardless as to whether it is right or wrong to call the raise, if you do go ahead and call it, which hand would you now rather have. (Of course in reality if you hold the ace-queen you don't know that your opponent holds precisely jacks and vice-versa.)

Here's a hint. In almost all cases the ace-queen will check the flop and the player holding the jacks will bet probably somewhere between half the pot to the whole pot.

Best wishes,
Mason

[KaneKungFu123]

Id still rather have JJ.

[Yeti]

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Id still rather have JJ.

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[Marnixvdb]

AQ generally won't win much if he hits the flop, when JJ doesnt hit.

JJ won't win much if AQ doesnt hit, but it can win a lot if both hit.

So yeah, JJ pls. It will win more often on the flop, and with a decent postflop game, it will have more equity in pots where both players advance beyond the flop.

And when you are up against a tight reraise range, it seems quite obvious that JJ is stronger than AQs

Marnix

[psuasskicker]

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Id still rather have JJ.

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[BobboFitos]

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I was sitting in a $5-$10 blind no limit

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No wonder the games are good.

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lol, this post rules.

[BobboFitos]

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Id still rather have JJ.

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[greg nice]

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Here's a hint. In almost all cases the ace-queen will check the flop and the player holding the jacks will bet probably somewhere between half the pot to the whole pot.


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and once that happens, the guy with AQ will fold unless he hit a pair, in which case, he is left wondering if he is still beat by a bigger pair or set. so you cant even count on your outs being good 1/3 of the time. or he will c/r all in with a big flopped draw, and be praying for 50% equity at best.