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10-11-2007, 02:09 PM
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Re: Straight flush mucked at 200nl Foxwoods?
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[ QUOTE ] Hero becomes furious, claiming nobody turns their cards up over the line at the table and says anything like "I had you til the [censored] river" when they're are going to be calling. [/ QUOTE ] You took your fury out on the wrong person. Unless you really want to just win a pot on a technicality. The guy to be pissed at is the showdown mope. It sucks that it happened, but let it go. I'd be more concerned with making sure the idiot knows to shut his yap when not in a hand. b [/ QUOTE ] Considering the muppet with the mouth in this case was barely spoken to and not punished in any form. Hero lost real $. Villain would not have won that $ if not for the muppets' comment. How do you implement any justice here? |
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#32
10-11-2007, 02:10 PM
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Re: Straight flush mucked at 200nl Foxwoods?
Wow. Great situation. Close call.
I would call it a muck. And award the pot to hero. The villain was clearly getting rid of his low flush turned sour. I wish dealers at FW would all grab mucked river cards and bury them quickly. Some do. Most don't. I would give muppet a time out/table change/stern warning and if they ever did it again a ban whose length would be dependant on how frequently they played (i.e. if they came once a week I'd ban them a month or two). |
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#33
10-11-2007, 02:10 PM
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Re: Straight flush mucked at 200nl Foxwoods?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] <u>turns up</u> 35h <u>in front of his stack</u> and <u>across the line on the table</u> [/ QUOTE ] This really doesn't seem to be 'tossed his cards face up toward the muck' [/ QUOTE ] How so? Villain was in seat 2 and extremely close to the muck. Are you kidding? [/ QUOTE ] You said "turns up", not "tosses toward the muck". From your description, they were in front of him, not in front of Seat 1 or the Dealer. |
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10-11-2007, 02:12 PM
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Re: Straight flush mucked at 200nl Foxwoods?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Hero becomes furious, claiming nobody turns their cards up over the line at the table and says anything like "I had you til the [censored] river" when they're are going to be calling. [/ QUOTE ] You took your fury out on the wrong person. Unless you really want to just win a pot on a technicality. The guy to be pissed at is the showdown mope. It sucks that it happened, but let it go. I'd be more concerned with making sure the idiot knows to shut his yap when not in a hand. b [/ QUOTE ] Considering the muppet with the mouth in this case was barely spoken to and not punished in any form. Hero lost real $. Villain would not have won that $ if not for the muppets' comment. How do you implement any justice here? [/ QUOTE ] You don't implement justice, the floor does. Until you start working for Foxwoods its not your yob mang! Complain to the floor next time, explain how his actions cost you significant amounts of dolla bills. He will give the guy a time out or something but your not getting your money back. |
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#37
10-11-2007, 02:13 PM
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Re: Straight flush mucked at 200nl Foxwoods?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Hero becomes furious, claiming nobody turns their cards up over the line at the table and says anything like "I had you til the [censored] river" when they're are going to be calling. [/ QUOTE ] You took your fury out on the wrong person. Unless you really want to just win a pot on a technicality. The guy to be pissed at is the showdown mope. It sucks that it happened, but let it go. I'd be more concerned with making sure the idiot knows to shut his yap when not in a hand. b [/ QUOTE ] Considering the muppet with the mouth in this case was barely spoken to and not punished in any form. Hero lost real $. Villain would not have won that $ if not for the muppets' comment. How do you implement any justice here? [/ QUOTE ] You don't implement justice, the floor does. Until you start working for Foxwoods its not your yob mang! Complain to the floor next time, explain how his actions cost you significant amounts of dolla bills. He will give the guy a time out or something but your not getting your money back. [/ QUOTE ] Is that ok with you if that was the ruling? What is your personal opinion, as both Hero and Villain? |
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#38
10-11-2007, 02:14 PM
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Re: Straight flush mucked at 200nl Foxwoods?
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Crossing the line does not determine a bet, raise or fold. [/ QUOTE ] Room depending. My room, it's it's ruled a bet. Betting lines suck. As far as it being considered a fold? Usually it isn't, but it's much more subjective. b |
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#39
10-11-2007, 02:17 PM
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Re: Straight flush mucked at 200nl Foxwoods?
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How do you implement any justice here? [/ QUOTE ] Wait for muppet in parking lot. Kidnap muppet. Force muppet to withdraw size of pot from ATM and give it to you. Drag muppet to tattoo parlor and have "One player to a hand" inked in an ornate tramp stamp. Drop muppet off at biker bar. Drive back to cardroom and beat Villain out of the all his money. |
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#40
10-11-2007, 02:18 PM
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Re: Straight flush mucked at 200nl Foxwoods?
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[ QUOTE ] Crossing the line does not determine a bet, raise or fold. [/ QUOTE ] Room depending. My room, it's it's ruled a bet. Betting lines suck. As far as it being considered a fold? Usually it isn't, but it's much more subjective. b [/ QUOTE ] Bernie - even in your room the line is a primary measure but not an absolute measure. They will allow other factors to weigh a decision, consider it like the muck - everyone thinks its magical but in reality cards can be fished out if its in the best interest of the game and the cards can be determined. |
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