Ahmadinejad Ground Zero request

[Ineedaride2]

Our US government leaders have not been, nor will they be, the 'bigger person' anytime soon.

We could act with class, with dignity, and extend our country's freedom and goodwill even to a person that may be despised by many.

This is not going to happen, though. For the last few years, our foreign relations policy is the equivalent of 6th grade popularity contests.

We have not acted with class in quite a while, and many are proud of this fact. It's sad.

[blufish]

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imo, letting the guy visit the site is a slap in the face to the dead.

he's a leading sponsor of terror, a vicious holocaust denier, his military is actively supporting and operating with opposition groups in iraq that are killing american troops, and by his own admission looks forward to the day when his 12th Imam rides to glory on his f'n winged horse to make vengeance upon us infidels and make the world a perfect islamic society. can't wait for that!

there is no reasoning or dealing with such people. the only invite this guy needs is an up close and personal meeting with a .50 caliber peacekeeper.

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You give reasons that could very easily be altered to refer to George Bush... religious fanatic, blood of American troops on his hand, leading contributor to terrorism, dislikes non-Christians and subsequently presumably thinks non christians, gays and other undeseriables will get [censored] over during the rapture .

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o.k. you can float your boat anyway you choose.

i happen to disagree that bush is a...

"religious fanatic", has "blood of American troops on his hand", is a "leading contributor to terrorism", that he "dislikes non-Christians" and I have no idea whether he "subsequently presumably thinks non christians, gays and other undeseriables will get [censored] over during the rapture"

[Ineedaride2]

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imo, letting the guy visit the site is a slap in the face to the dead.

he's a leading sponsor of terror, a vicious holocaust denier, his military is actively supporting and operating with opposition groups in iraq that are killing american troops, and by his own admission looks forward to the day when his 12th Imam rides to glory on his f'n winged horse to make vengeance upon us infidels and make the world a perfect islamic society. can't wait for that!

there is no reasoning or dealing with such people. the only invite this guy needs is an up close and personal meeting with a .50 caliber peacekeeper.

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You give reasons that could very easily be altered to refer to George Bush... religious fanatic, blood of American troops on his hand, leading contributor to terrorism, dislikes non-Christians and subsequently presumably thinks non christians, gays and other undeseriables will get [censored] over during the rapture .

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o.k. you can float your boat anyway you choose.

i happen to disagree that bush is a...

"religious fanatic", has "blood of American troops on his hand", is a "leading contributor to terrorism", that he "dislikes non-Christians" and I have no idea whether he "subsequently presumably thinks non christians, gays and other undeseriables will get [censored] over during the rapture"

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You're entitled to your opinion as long as you ignore his policy and don't listen to his speeches. Once you've done either of these things, it's not a matter of a opinion anymore, at least for the majority of the issues listed above.

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imo, letting the guy visit the site is a slap in the face to the dead.

he's a leading sponsor of terror, a vicious holocaust denier, his military is actively supporting and operating with opposition groups in iraq that are killing american troops, and by his own admission looks forward to the day when his 12th Imam rides to glory on his f'n winged horse to make vengeance upon us infidels and make the world a perfect islamic society. can't wait for that!

there is no reasoning or dealing with such people. the only invite this guy needs is an up close and personal meeting with a .50 caliber peacekeeper.

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You give reasons that could very easily be altered to refer to George Bush... religious fanatic, blood of American troops on his hand, leading contributor to terrorism, dislikes non-Christians and subsequently presumably thinks non christians, gays and other undeseriables will get [censored] over during the rapture .

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o.k. you can float your boat anyway you choose.

i happen to disagree that bush is a...

"religious fanatic", has "blood of American troops on his hand", is a "leading contributor to terrorism", that he "dislikes non-Christians" and I have no idea whether he "subsequently presumably thinks non christians, gays and other undeseriables will get [censored] over during the rapture"

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You're entitled to your opinion as long as you ignore his policy and don't listen to his speeches. Once you've done either of these things, it's not a matter of a opinion anymore, at least for the majority of the issues listed above.

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thanks for the sign off on letting me have my opinion...

and yes, i have heard him speak for almost 2 full terms now and i don't reach the same conclusion that you do.

fine.

i don't see the moral equivalency that you seem to see between the guy in iran and the guy in the u.s.

[Ineedaride2]

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imo, letting the guy visit the site is a slap in the face to the dead.

he's a leading sponsor of terror, a vicious holocaust denier, his military is actively supporting and operating with opposition groups in iraq that are killing american troops, and by his own admission looks forward to the day when his 12th Imam rides to glory on his f'n winged horse to make vengeance upon us infidels and make the world a perfect islamic society. can't wait for that!

there is no reasoning or dealing with such people. the only invite this guy needs is an up close and personal meeting with a .50 caliber peacekeeper.

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You give reasons that could very easily be altered to refer to George Bush... religious fanatic, blood of American troops on his hand, leading contributor to terrorism, dislikes non-Christians and subsequently presumably thinks non christians, gays and other undeseriables will get [censored] over during the rapture .

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o.k. you can float your boat anyway you choose.

i happen to disagree that bush is a...

"religious fanatic", has "blood of American troops on his hand", is a "leading contributor to terrorism", that he "dislikes non-Christians" and I have no idea whether he "subsequently presumably thinks non christians, gays and other undeseriables will get [censored] over during the rapture"

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You're entitled to your opinion as long as you ignore his policy and don't listen to his speeches. Once you've done either of these things, it's not a matter of a opinion anymore, at least for the majority of the issues listed above.

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thanks for the sign off on letting me have my opinion...

and yes, i have heard him speak for almost 2 full terms now and i don't reach the same conclusion that you do.

fine.

i don't see the moral equivalency that you seem to see between the guy in iran and the guy in the u.s.

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I shouldn't have responded to your post in such a manner, regardless of my views. I'm letting internet forums get the better of me again. Apologies.

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The guy's been protrayed, rightly or wrongly, as Hitler and Stalin rolled into one. Having him go to Ground Zero would be political dynamite for the administration.

Allowing him to visit Ground Zero could be a way toward diffusing the tensions betwen the two countries. Which is why we won't allow it.

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Yes, that's exactly what Joe sixpack's thinking while he's shaking his fist at the tube. Yes, that's what the police chief immediately thought of when he first got the phone call. "But the oil! Can't have these people starting to like Iran, now" Yes, way to totally hit the nail on the head there.



Or, you know, maybe it has more to do with how he's a self avowed enemy of our country. Something like that...

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The guy's been protrayed, rightly or wrongly, as Hitler and Stalin rolled into one. Having him go to Ground Zero would be political dynamite for the administration.

Allowing him to visit Ground Zero could be a way toward diffusing the tensions betwen the two countries. Which is why we won't allow it.

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Ahmadinejad quotes:

"They have invented a myth that Jews were massacred and place this above God, religions and the prophets."

"We ask the West to remove what they created sixty years ago and if they do not listen to our recommendations, then the Palestinian nation and other nations will eventually do this for them."

"Anybody who recognizes Israel will burn in the fire of the Islamic nation's fury."

"Remove Israel before it is too late and save yourself from the fury of regional nations."

"The skirmishes in the occupied land are part of a war of destiny. The outcome of hundreds of years of war will be defined in Palestinian land. As the Imam said, Israel must be wiped off the map."

"The Zionist regime is an injustice and by its very nature a permanent threat. Whether you like it or not, the Zionist regime is heading toward annihilation. Israel is a rotten, dried tree that will be annihilated in one storm."

"Could [9/11] be planned and executed without coordination with intelligence and security services - or their extensive infiltration? Of course this is just an educated guess. Why have the various aspects of the attacks been kept secret? Why are we not told who botched their responsibilities? And, why aren't those responsible and the guilty parties identified and put on trial?"

“Iran is ready to transfer nuclear know-how to the
Islamic countries due to their need.”

"The wave of the Islamic revolution will soon reach the entire world."

"If you want to have good relations with the Iranian people in the future, you should acknowledge the right and the might of the Iranian people, and you should bow and surrender to the might of the Iranian people. If you do not accept this, the Iranian people will force you to bow and surrender."

"With God's help, the countdown button for the destruction of the Zionist regime has been pushed by the hands of the children of Lebanon and Palestine . . . By God's will, we will witness the destruction of this regime in the near future."

"Israel is destined for destruction and will soon disappear"

Israel is "a contradiction to nature, we foresee its rapid disappearance and destruction."

"Are they human beings?... They (Zionists) are a group of blood-thirsty savages putting all other criminals to shame."

"The Zionists are the true manifestation of Satan"

This is the man with whom you are suggesting "diffusing tensions". Chamberlain had a similar idea about diffusing tensions with Hitler. Well, maybe Ahmadinejad will change his mind if he is treated kindly and will decide he just wants to "work things out" instead of "wiping Israel off the map." Anyone want to guess the odds on that?

Sorry but I just don't see it...diffusing tensions with Ahmadinejad while Iran finishes development of its nuclear bombs would be a...good idea?

As always, thanks for reading.

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Yeah, probably. I would have replaced Neilso with "X" but It won't let me edit now. I don't really know what Neilso's view is so that was dumb. But its certainly the view of many video's hes linked such as Zeitgeist and that dude who died recently.

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I'd be kinda surprised if Aaron Rousso was anti-semitic. His family lived in beverly hills, and had a ton of jewish friends. Jewish people I knew liked Aaron, but thought he was probably a bit nutty. Do you have information I should know about?

[Felix_Nietzsche]

Lets honor Ahmadinejad's Request.....by created a smouldering, burning, ground zero in Tehran.

He wants to lay a wreath honoring the 19 dead hijackers.
You don't let one of the top sponsors of terror make a propaganda ploy like this on our soil...

[andyfox]

This is exactly the type of man with whom it would be wise to diffuse tensions.

And I still say the worst part about Munich is how often it's brought up in situations to which is has absolutely no relevance.