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Old 03-02-2006, 09:05 AM
tom10167 tom10167 is offline
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Default Re: Party loses another one to Stars

What exactly are the benefits of VIP?
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Old 03-02-2006, 09:24 AM
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Sorry to disagree. Read the emails again. THey tell you clearly that you need in excess of 3600. I don't think 5 in either direction is what they are talking about. They are also clearly telling you that they want you at the 1/2 tables or higher for long sessions. Yes, it would be nice if they had defined standards, but if I were Party I would do the same thing. They want people to play at party no matter what, provider of choice, and they want to reward those players. That is what a VIP program is for.

You want to get to some magic number and stop. That is not what they want to reward. Believe me I have plenty of things that I would like to see party address, but this isn't one of them.

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Old 03-02-2006, 10:24 AM
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leaving b/c you are not vip is pretty lame. you didn't meet their requirements - meet them or don't expect being a vip. plus, the vip hardly makes it worth playing on party...the games are what makes it good

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You're missing the point. Party Poker's service really sucks bad. It is so bad that I think it is ruining the site. I have taken my business elsewhere. For crying out loud, just send a simple question to [email protected] and see if you get a response that even remotely covers the topic.

The games on Party are going drastically downhill as well. Sure, there are plenty of fish in the sea. But there are so many low limit grinders now that it's hard to find a decent $3/6 full ring game. Short handed is your only option.

So assume you start playing short handed. There's still no reason to stick with party because the short handed tables are juicy on just about every poker site out there.
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Old 03-02-2006, 10:27 AM
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These 3-6 tables are horrible, I'm trying shorthanded now and it's a little scary.
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Old 03-02-2006, 10:54 AM
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THey tell you clearly that you need in excess of 3600. I don't think 5 in either direction is what they are talking about.

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3605 > 3600.
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Old 03-02-2006, 11:14 AM
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Another good thing about Stars is that if you ever decide you want to cheat, the only thing you lose if you get caught is the money you won while cheating!

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Actually, thats a good thing. If somehow you get falsely accused of cheating, at least you won't be wiped out totally.

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You are absolutely correct. Any player that is advocating a site should take a player's entire online bankroll even in the event of proven cheating is not thinking clearly, IMO.

Only funds that are directly linked to the cheating should be confisicated and naturally that player be permanently banned.

PokerStars got this one right and the action they took should be applauded by us players.

The position Party took in this case (total confisication of funds) should have been railed against by us players.

Players need to ask themselves what if they were falsely accused of cheating and their entire bankroll was wiped out?

There have been many cases where people are falsely accused, get convicted, and then serve jail time.
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Old 03-02-2006, 11:32 AM
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Another good thing about Stars is that if you ever decide you want to cheat, the only thing you lose if you get caught is the money you won while cheating!

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Actually, thats a good thing. If somehow you get falsely accused of cheating, at least you won't be wiped out totally.

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You are absolutely correct. Any player that is advocating a site should take a player's entire online bankroll even in the event of proven cheating is not thinking clearly, IMO.

Only funds that are directly linked to the cheating should be confisicated and naturally that player be permanently banned.

PokerStars got this one right and the action they took should be applauded by us players.

The position Party took in this case (total confisication of funds) should have been railed against by us players.

Players need to ask themselves what if they were falsely accused of cheating and their entire bankroll was wiped out?

There have been many cases where people are falsely accused, get convicted, and then serve jail time.

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Perhaps we should just do away with jail then. Should I try to lower the prison sentence for murderers because one day, I might be falsely accused of murder and convicted? Maybe I should try to get rid of Megan's law cause I might one day be falsely accused of child molestation.

You might be a dumb@ss if you think that a site was too harsh against a player that was cheating you.
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Old 03-02-2006, 12:17 PM
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Another good thing about Stars is that if you ever decide you want to cheat, the only thing you lose if you get caught is the money you won while cheating!

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Actually, thats a good thing. If somehow you get falsely accused of cheating, at least you won't be wiped out totally.

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This is a joke, right?

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No joke at all. If I was falsely accused of cheating, say collusion at a .50/1.00 table where I won 30 bucks for the session, I wouldn't want them to have the right to take my 50k bankroll.

If such a 'rule' became standard at all sites, I probably wouldn't play online anymore. I don't trust the sites that much. They don't really seem to know what they are doing. I could see them labeling people cheaters who aren't, just so they could confiscate their entire bankrolls. Especially at underfunded newer sites that can't make it anyways. So they'd just say you are a cheater and keep all your money.

Sure, that may not be likely at the big established sites, but there are 300 other sites that might abuse such a rule as that.

Since you can't have your day in court, and your arguments wouldn't be heard anyways, why give the sites that kind of power to confiscate your entire bankroll on that site? That wouldn't be good for players.

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Wha? Huh? You don't lose a 50k bankroll because someone ACCUSED you of cheating.

It's those who actually did cheat who lose 50k bankrolls.
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Old 03-02-2006, 12:33 PM
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holy [censored] you are dumb. this is pretty funny.


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he makes a good argument and that's your response? insults and curse words? so weak.

what he said makes sense. seems to come down to level of trust w/ poker sites.

edit: i would imagine that synergistic has been around the internet poker "scene" longer than you and has seen a few shady things that have happened here. 99.99% of it is on the up and up. but it's those few times when things go wrong when you remember youre not dealing w/ US businesses.

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Old 03-02-2006, 12:49 PM
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Wha? Huh? You don't lose a 50k bankroll because someone ACCUSED you of cheating.

It's those who actually did cheat who lose 50k bankrolls.

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I think you are incorrect or potentially incorrect. Party's customer service has become so bad that I do not trust them to correctly investigate into a cheating problem.

It's funny because I was actually accused of cheating yesterday because I called a LAG donk down with ace high after he check raised me on the turn and bet the river.

Let's assume I was playing on Party and this idiot reports me for cheating because I called him down with ace high. I can just see party looking at the hand and saying "Hey! He called with nothing... he must have known the other guy's hand". So then instead of properly investigating the problem, they just accuse me of cheating, close my account and confiscate my bankroll.

I'm not saying that that has happened. But hypothetically, it could happen. Especially with their awful service.
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