Dealing with moron neighbors

[hiho]

Again the the main issue here that you're forgeting is that you're putting YOUR kids in danger by allowing them to play in the street given the history of drivers not stopping at the stop sign. Who gives a [censored] about the law???? The first time you saw someone run that stop sign shame on them, the second time shame on you. Does it take one of your kids getting hit by a car to get them in the yard where they belong????

[tshort]

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But I never, not once, did what he did; and he most definitely got the tone he deserved for it.

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He might have deserved the tone, but it is not the best way to solve the problem. If he drives safer next time, it's not because he's worried about hitting a kid. He just doesn't want some old dude up his ass.

I would recommend:

http://www.amazon.com/How-Win-Friend.../dp/0671723650

[dlk9s]

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You sound like you're one of these kids blowing stop signs and fish-tailing suburban corners and thinking there's nothing wrong with it. Seriously dude, get a clue.

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This happened in front of my house once. I live on a corner near the beginning of my neighborhood. I was standing outside the front door one day with my baby and someone in an old, blue sports car came barreling around the corner. Had to be going at least 50 MPH. He fish tailed and almost careened right onto my front yard. I walk my dog every day, and usually with the baby strapped to me. If I was walking there at that moment, all three of us would be dead.

[psuasskicker]

Some of you guys I guess think we're robots that don't have emotions and won't react in pretty human ways to something. I will be pretty calm and collected when people drive like normal people even if they don't stop at a stop sign. I'm not an idiot and contrary to some belief I'm not a life nit.

But this kid didn't even slow down to take that turn. It's not a matter of "just missing a stop sign" regardless of whether it's an accident or blatant disregard. I couldn't care less which of the two it was, no one should EVER be taking a turn at full speed, particularly in a residential neighborhood.

If you don't have kids, you have no hope of understanding the emotional reaction that takes place here, but try to put yourself in a parent's shoes for one second here. Your kids are out playing. Some kid rockets around a corner at a speed fast enough that if your kids are out in front of him, he has no hope of stopping in time. You have less than one second to get him slowed down to make sure he doesn't continue driving wrecklessly and hurt someone if your kids happen to be in his path (cause you can't see it's a kid when he comes tearing around that corner, you have no idea which house he's going to, so who knows what his path is).

You think you're gonna react calmly to something like that?

I don't think so. Every parent I know blows their lid, screams at them to get them slowed or stopped, and will not be calm when speaking to them. Human nature, and I'm not apologetic for it.

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[daryn]

who the hell says "on accident".. is it a regional thing? i must know. i think i made a poll once...

[rjoefish]

Can you actually fishtail on a normal, non wet, road going 25. Also, am I the only one reading that website you linked as saying 'be careful at intersections, because peds have the right of way there to cross'? I don't thik its saying 'hey, let peds do what ever they want in the street, because hey, they have the right of way'.

I also think that letting 4 year olds play in the street, even when you're around is a supremely bad idea. Seems like it would reinforce their idea that they can play out there, whether or not you tell them not to without you watching them. It also seems like you're putting them in undue danger when you have a safe place, ie. sidewalk and driveway, for them to ride their bikes, especially when you're thinking young HS kids in the area are having a hard time stopping at the signs.

[psuasskicker]

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Again the the main issue here that you're forgeting is that you're putting YOUR kids in danger by allowing them to play in the street given the history of drivers not stopping at the stop sign. Who gives a [censored] about the law???? The first time you saw someone run that stop sign shame on them, the second time shame on you. Does it take one of your kids getting hit by a car to get them in the yard where they belong????

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You're the kinda guy that tells a chick wearing a revealing outfit that it's her fault she got raped, right?

Do you think before you type/talk? Cause this is some pretty [censored] up logic.

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[Taso]

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But I never, not once, did what he did; and he most definitely got the tone he deserved for it.

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He might have deserved the tone, but it is not the best way to solve the problem. If he drives safer next time, it's not because he's worried about hitting a kid. He just doesn't want some old dude up his ass.

I would recommend:

http://www.amazon.com/How-Win-Friend.../dp/0671723650

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I disagree - I'm around this age and I drive like a maniac on big roads, but when I come to small residential areas, and I see kids playing even in their yards, I drive like the worlds biggest pussy (think cat, if the censored takes it out). Why? I don't know, I think its because of the cops that have come to our school to lecture us, and I'm just scared like hell of hitting a kid, and imagining what that would do to the child's life, the families life, and my life.

I think having some adult yelling at me that I could have just killed a small child would have the same effect on me.

[psuasskicker]

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But I never, not once, did what he did; and he most definitely got the tone he deserved for it.

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He might have deserved the tone, but it is not the best way to solve the problem. If he drives safer next time, it's not because he's worried about hitting a kid. He just doesn't want some old dude up his ass.

I would recommend:

http://www.amazon.com/How-Win-Friend.../dp/0671723650

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I've read the book...I don't need a lecture on that.

Honestly I couldn't care less why the kid drives like a normal, safe human being next time, as long as he's driving like a normal, safe human being. And I hope he tells the story to all his friends, cause as much as they might talk about us being dicks, they'll all want to avoid the same tongue-lashing when they come visit HS kid.

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[tshort]

I understand it's easy to get emotional. I would probably initially scream at the kid. If I had a chance to go talk to him face to face, I can't imagine I would keep screaming in his face because that doesn't make sense to me. I know what it accomplishes.... him telling an exaggerated story about you being an [censored]. I don't have kids so maybe I can't relate. I do have a brother who is 10 years younger than me so have some perspective of looking after a kid when I take him to a baseball game, movie, etc.

It's very true it's easy for me to say this sitting here. It takes some repetition in dealing with people in a calm rational manner all the time to be able to do so when your emotions are through the roof. You are worried about your kids safety and treating the kid like scum isn't the best way to make the situation better in the future.