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Old 08-23-2007, 08:33 PM
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I plan on referring to gravity, tides, climate and everything else as mindless, whenever I can remember to.

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Obviously you haven't heard of Intelligent Falling, Intelligent Waving or Intelligent Heating/Cooling yet.
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Old 08-23-2007, 08:46 PM
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Obviously you haven't heard of Intelligent Falling, Intelligent Waving or Intelligent Heating/Cooling yet.


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Or Intelligent Posting.
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Old 08-23-2007, 08:59 PM
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Obviously you haven't heard of Intelligent Falling, Intelligent Waving or Intelligent Heating/Cooling yet.


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Or Intelligent Posting.

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Sick burn!
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Old 08-23-2007, 10:24 PM
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Obviously you haven't heard of Intelligent Falling, Intelligent Waving or Intelligent Heating/Cooling yet.


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Or Intelligent Posting.

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Obviously you haven't heard of Intelligent Falling, Intelligent Waving or Intelligent Heating/Cooling yet.


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Or Intelligent Posting.

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lol. I admit that was a good one. (I think you were trying to be mean though [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] )

Even though my point might be unintelligent, I will ask anyway: why doesn't the theory of gravity come under the same level of scrutiny that the theory of evolution does?
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Old 08-23-2007, 10:33 PM
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(I think you were trying to be mean though )


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Self defense.

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why doesn't the theory of gravity come under the same level of scrutiny that the theory of evolution does?


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Other natural laws haven't been offered as proof that God doesn't exist. Also, evolution deals with human origins which brings a lot more into play that just the alleged arrogance of Christians who think they're special. You're telling us that we, our spouses, our heroes, our children and Christ Himself all come from apes(or even some one celled bug crawling in the muck) - with no proof.

But for me it isn't just evolution. The Bible says Adam was created from the dust of the earth so from a physical standpoint that isn't really a whole lot more elevating than coming from a bug. For me it's the Godless part that matters. God may well have created us through evolution, making the first bug from primordial mud, which would agree with the Bible, and then guiding natural processes until we popped up. But it didn't happen by accident. Dennett notwithstanding, God can't be killed(again).
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Old 08-23-2007, 10:33 PM
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Obviously you haven't heard of Intelligent Falling, Intelligent Waving or Intelligent Heating/Cooling yet.


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Or Intelligent Posting.

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Zing!
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Old 08-23-2007, 10:36 PM
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You're telling us that we, our spouses, our heroes, our children and Christ Himself all come from apes(or even some one celled bug crawling in the muck) - with no proof.


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Is this one of your clever word games where you purposefully used the word "proof" instead of "evidence"?
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Old 08-23-2007, 10:47 PM
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You're telling us that we, our spouses, our heroes, our children and Christ Himself all come from apes(or even some one celled bug crawling in the muck) - with no proof.

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No proof? Right we haven't found a mountain of fossil evidence in favor of evolution. And we haven't found a mountain of evidence through comparative biology in favor of evolution. Whatever you say.

OK so I'm being sarcastic. You say it takes faith to believe in evolution? I disagree. True I trust the scientists of the world in their abilities and conclusions. But if I wanted to, and had the time and money, I could examine all this physical evidence myself. Can you say that about the case for god's existence? No, because there is no evidence to examine, just hearsay.
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Old 08-23-2007, 10:51 PM
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Is this one of your clever word games where you purposefully used the word "proof" instead of "evidence"?


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I promise you I debated which word to use. But I knew it didn't matter, either would draw fire. I chose proof as a stronger word than evidence because I can't say there's absolutely zero evidence.
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Old 08-23-2007, 11:01 PM
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Is this one of your clever word games where you purposefully used the word "proof" instead of "evidence"?

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It cuts both ways. You expect us to believe there is some omniscient omnipotent being that created everything, and yet has nothing better to do than play coy games with hapless beings on some little planet in an unremakable galaxy in some tiny corner of the universe, revealing his presence to some, and expecting all the others to believe on their word alone, or be punished for all eternity - all with no proof.
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