Dealer Comments On Your Play -- What Do You Do? - Page 4

*TT* · #31 08-02-2007, 12:52 PM

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telling the floor will do next to nothing. some matters must be taken into ones own hands. next time they come to deal at your table and you are in the one or ten seat, slide some rusty tacks onto their chair before they sit down.

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Now I realize your just trolling. Hi there, I'm a moderator. Continue trolling, and I'll be forced to do the only thing I can to get you to stop trolling.

KenProspero · #32 08-02-2007, 12:52 PM

Here's what I don't understand -- why does anyone think that getting into a pissing match with the dealer is EVER a good idea.

Maybe it's because I play low limits. My experience is that in a given evening, most of the money won comes from a few players, who usually aren't very good, and if the truth be told are more concerned with having a good time than winning (See Psychology of Poker).

If the table gets ugly, these leetle feeshes swim away to another table.

So, yeah, at a $1/2 NL game, you can make a smartass comment to the dealer, but this has got to be -ev.

Arito · #33 08-02-2007, 12:58 PM

I highly doubt that the floorstaff actually gives a rat's ass about this, even if they pretend they do. I'm the most quiet person at the table usually (I never complain about string raises etc.), but that comment does not slide with me. I'd probably politely tell him to mind his own business and never tip him again. Also TT, I doubt the dealer in question doesn't know he is being inappropriate, and if he really doesn't, he is a moron and was trained very poorly.

This is all with the assumption that it was said in a condescending tone, and not jokingly!

vhawk01 · #34 08-02-2007, 01:08 PM

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At the Mirage, you will be asked to leave the poker room if you announce to the table that you don't intend to tip.

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What genius came up with that rule? I'd like to see it in print.

Jimbo

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"The casino reserves the right to deny service to any customer at any time for any reason."

That work?

Jimbo · #35 08-02-2007, 01:18 PM

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At the Mirage, you will be asked to leave the poker room if you announce to the table that you don't intend to tip.

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What genius came up with that rule? I'd like to see it in print.

Jimbo

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"The casino reserves the right to deny service to any customer at any time for any reason."

That work?

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Naturally I understand that but I thought TT was referring to a specific poker room rule. I guarantee you if walked up to a craps table, told them I did not plan on tipping and then I played craps for 5 hours there is zero chance I'd be 86'd from the craps table (now I might not get the best customer service or any favorable rulings so making the announcement would be -EV for me). Not that I ever stiff at table games or poker games, after all that is how they make a living wage. But if Donna is going to try to force me to leave the poker room if I sit down at a poker table and say "I plan on not tipping", my casino host will enlighten her pretty quickly.

Jimbo

AngusThermopyle · #36 08-02-2007, 01:21 PM

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At the Mirage, you will be asked to leave the poker room if you announce to the table that you don't intend to tip.

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What genius came up with that rule? I'd like to see it in print.

Jimbo

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"The casino reserves the right to deny service to any customer at any time for any reason."

That work?

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So, technically, they can throw you out for wearing a red jacket.
TT said it was the policy of the club, not the whim of the shift manager.
A policy should be written down, so a player can be shown that it is not just "Nancy's pet peeve".

vhawk01 · #37 08-02-2007, 01:23 PM

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At the Mirage, you will be asked to leave the poker room if you announce to the table that you don't intend to tip.

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What genius came up with that rule? I'd like to see it in print.

Jimbo

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"The casino reserves the right to deny service to any customer at any time for any reason."

That work?

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So, technically, they can throw you out for wearing a red jacket.
TT said it was the policy of the club, not the whim of the shift manager.
A policy should be written down, so a player can be shown that it is not just "Nancy's pet peeve".

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Yes, they definitely could throw you out for wearing a red jacket. I don't know if its written down or not, I was just saying that even if it isn't it doesn't make any difference. And it apparently isn't just based on a whim if TT is saying that it WILL happen. That means that its a regular, established thing, even if it is an unwritten policy.

I kind of have a hunch they'd inform you of the policy before tossing you out, but maybe they wouldn't.

n.s. · #38 08-02-2007, 01:26 PM

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telling the floor will do next to nothing. some matters must be taken into ones own hands. next time they come to deal at your table and you are in the one or ten seat, slide some rusty tacks onto their chair before they sit down.

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Now I realize your just trolling. Hi there, I'm a moderator. Continue trolling, and I'll be forced to do the only thing I can to get you to stop trolling.

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TT, I think you are confusing "trolling" with "joking".

Wongboy · #39 08-02-2007, 01:28 PM

Personally, I don't think this is that bad. His statement was made after the hand, so at least he did not influence the play of that hand (which would have been much worse). His statement could impact your table image, but I think it would be a positive impact, or at least one that you should be able to use to your advantage.

If the other players think you are a Donkey, that can definately be manipulated. Even if they just note that you you like to make a big raise when you have a premium hand and there is a limper, that can also be good. It would have been even better to confirm his statement by saying something like "I'd rather win a little pot with aces than lose a big one" or some such.

*TT* · #40 08-02-2007, 01:37 PM

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At the Mirage, you will be asked to leave the poker room if you announce to the table that you don't intend to tip.

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What genius came up with that rule? I'd like to see it in print.

Jimbo

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"The casino reserves the right to deny service to any customer at any time for any reason."

That work?

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Naturally I understand that but I thought TT was referring to a specific poker room rule. I guarantee you if walked up to a craps table, told them I did not plan on tipping and then I played craps for 5 hours there is zero chance I'd be 86'd from the craps table (now I might not get the best customer service or any favorable rulings so making the announcement would be -EV for me). Not that I ever stiff at table games or poker games, after all that is how they make a living wage. But if Donna is going to try to force me to leave the poker room if I sit down at a poker table and say "I plan on not tipping", my casino host will enlighten her pretty quickly.

Jimbo

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Its an enforced rule at Mirage (I was surprised when i learned about it through first hand experiance), but I agree your casino host would probably be able to solve that rather quickly. Rules are made to be broken. And of course the floor would most likely warn you first, and only ask you to leave if you continued to harp on the issue.