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Old 07-25-2007, 12:34 AM
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Default Re: KQs vs. LAG

what is this bet/call crap? Just shove.
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Old 07-25-2007, 12:36 AM
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Default Re: KQs vs. LAG

Given PF action I think the only viable options are Bet/Call and Check/Fold. I don't think you can check/call profitably at all. You won't be getting odds to draw even if you consider clubs as bluff outs Any idea what villains WTSD is? Is it possible he's floating JJ-KK?
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Old 07-25-2007, 12:44 AM
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Default Re: KQs vs. LAG

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But guys, someone who is 38/28 doesn't seem capable of folding any A. CRAI would be bad because he'd call with any A right and he might fold an A to a bet?

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He'd fold an A if we bet but call a c/r with one?

Wait, what!?

This guy has a very wide range for calling the flop. Of course an A doesn't fold, but lots of other pairs do.
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Old 07-25-2007, 12:50 AM
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Default Re: KQs vs. LAG

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But guys, someone who is 38/28 doesn't seem capable of folding any A. CRAI would be bad because he'd call with any A right and he might fold an A to a bet?

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He'd fold an A if we bet but call a c/r with one?

Wait, what!?

This guy has a very wide range for calling the flop. Of course an A doesn't fold, but lots of other pairs do.

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Are you advocating a C/Rai here? I think we have little to no FE vs. any reasonably sized bet.
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Old 07-25-2007, 01:14 AM
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Depends how lightly hes peeling the flop. If hes calling with less than an A a significant amount of the time or folds a weak Ace to a turn bet a significant amount of the time then betting is obviously best. Otherwise check/fold. This turn gets checked through and decent amount of the time though.

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what are ur stats (in this session), orange? last i played with u they were like 16/12, in which case u should have a better chance of getting villain to fold weak aces.
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Old 07-25-2007, 01:16 AM
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Default Re: KQs vs. LAG

It really really depends how the cards are coming and how many bad players are at the table. Overall, I run 24/19ish but for alot of today, I ran like 15/11 during the middle of the day and like 25/20 at night (due to cards/players/etc). At this table, probably like 19/16 or so.
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Old 07-25-2007, 02:15 AM
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Default Re: KQs vs. LAG

IMO

90% pot bet/c > c/f > c/c > crai

Although this assumes he sometimes won't have AK or AQ 100% and could be floating some wierd stuff. Otherwise you have 0 fe and I prefer

c/f > c/c > 90% pot bet/c > crai
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Old 07-25-2007, 02:41 AM
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Default Re: KQs vs. LAG

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But guys, someone who is 38/28 doesn't seem capable of folding any A. CRAI would be bad because he'd call with any A right and he might fold an A to a bet?

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He'd fold an A if we bet but call a c/r with one?

Wait, what!?

This guy has a very wide range for calling the flop. Of course an A doesn't fold, but lots of other pairs do.

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Are you advocating a C/Rai here? I think we have little to no FE vs. any reasonably sized bet.

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No I am not.

I'm just pointing out that I don't think this type of villain folds any Ace no matter which line you take.

I agree with Jay, though, that it gets checked through a lot if you check.
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Old 07-25-2007, 02:45 AM
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Given stack sizes and the fact that a PSB on the turn pot commits us, what is this bet/call crap? Just shove.

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Old 07-25-2007, 02:52 AM
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Default Re: KQs vs. LAG

wtf c/f the turn please (unless of course he is giving you direct odds)
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