bobby baldwin pulls rank

[RobertJohn]

The show-one-show-all rule is routinely brought up at the casino I play at (HG, CA). I'm not sure if it applies at Commerce or not, can't remember from experience.

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TAUNTING IS [censored] FINE THOUGH HELLO THIS IS POKERS NOT SEWING.

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Taunting is so [censored] lame unless you know the person or are under some agreement that it won't carry on to violence.

I was playing just yesterday at HG and some drunk white dude who had obv. lost a lot of money that night (and was probably by disposition, a mean drunk) was getting into some verbal argument with an Asian guy who barely spoke English. Totally abusing him verbally.

They went back and forth but I could tell there was obviously going to be no physical altercation (maybe the Asian dude might flip) just because the guy was being whiny and kinda pussy. I was in the 8 seat, and they were in the 9 and 7 seats.

There was a 300+ lb black dude in the 2 seat and a gangster-looking Mexican kid in the 3 seat who both were saying, "Can't we just play cards, relax, etc." The dealer did a poor job of not calling over the floorman sooner, letting the argument fester.

Maybe a couple hours later they clacked fists and claimed they were cool (the white guy even jokingly said that he still hated him). Still, the display was sickening.

People have a lot of animosity, and possibly anxiety, when they show up to the cardrooms; as a result, a lot of the players can't handle themselves emotionally and end up whining, cussing, or storming off like children.

To be honest, I acted kind of douchey in this manner when I first started playing, b/c I hadn't yet realized how much variance, cruel beats, etc. there is in the game (getting sucked out on by players making huge errors is something everyone has to just deal with). You have to realize that you can't win every session and brutal suckouts are the norm.

After a while though, not being able to handle yourself, whether its taunting or crying like a bitch, is just a mark of lameness and is one of the main reasons I hate going to casinos. That and the degenerates and weird forms of life. Also the hypocrisy and irrationiality that comes out of peoples mouths at the table. However, the foods great and most of the players suck.


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[BigSoonerFan]

"Bobby, the proper thing for me to do would be to call the floor and ask them for a ruling, but since you're the Boss and can drop me on the spot, I'll ask you. What are you telling me to do?"

[Crane]

I've never heard of having to show both cards if you only show one card in a cash game. People show one card all the time, and I've never seen anyone demand to see the other card. It's never happened. Not anywhere I've played anyway.

The facts of this story might not be completely correct.

If it were me, I would have told Baldwin to shove it. Just becasue the room's got your name on it doesn't mean it's YOUR room. Who the hell do you think you are? Some kind of bigshot?

Well, maybe I wouldn't have said that. I probably would have said, "Yes sir, Mr. Baldwin. Here is my other card. I'm sorry to have offended you, sir. May I have a cookie?"

[MiltonFriedman]

Pretty sure you do not have a clue about Nevada gaming, or the role of the Gaming Control Board.

[pig4bill]

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How has show one show all morphed into meaning the cards so often? It refers to showing one or all players.

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Incorrect. There are actually two different TDA rules.

1. Show one (player), show all (players).
2. Show one (card), show both/all (cards).

Not in operation at all tournaments, but its purpose is to prevent a player from merely showing a needle card. Whether it's a good rule or not is highly debatable.

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Rule 2 has been reversed again at this year's WSOP. You don't have to show both if you show one.

[kerr]

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I forget, what does the "T" in TDA stand for? Is it cash games? TDA rules are irrelevant.

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Of course you are correct, but wouldn't it be easier if there was one universal set of rules used by all cardrooms for both tournaments and cash games?

[PokeReader]

I hate the show both cards rule. You can want to show someone something as a nice gesture, I had the ace, etc...to let the player and table know it was a good fold, and you weren't bluffing, but having to show your entire hand, now you really can't do that if you don't wan't the whole table to have complete information. I think many more times the flash one is used for this than to "needle" somebody. I don't think it is the TD's job to remove needling from poker either. I think many people go to far, but there is now discretion for this in the rules. If someone is so far gone in needling then they should be called for an abusive language penalty, but this rule limits the good intentions of players as well as negative intentions. And if you can get someone to think they folded improperly just by showing them a card, how is that outrageous conduct in poker? I hope this rule dies a fast, painful death.